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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Omega Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 13:51:42 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 165 Message-ID: <v5rnte$htga$1@dont-email.me> References: <gi228j9kv4ijggtjuitbs1ll5rf99p44cb@4ax.com> <732df2c1-5fb2-61f2-ba91-dda25b10fd72@electrooptical.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 15:51:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4b148ce28e6ca737ab2f7569a11ead3b"; logging-data="587274"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+2bMSe5WY0xM2wSA2hz/W9" User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPhone/iPod Touch) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ZQgUniQUtwLeOmcXItcMXGtZsBY= sha1:PyBWPzHIo/4phLkgFPQ4FR99PSQ= Bytes: 7504 Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: > On 2024-06-30 03:44, Cursitor Doom wrote: >> Gentlemen, >> >> For more decades than I care to remember, I've been using formulae >> such as Xc= 1/2pifL, Xl=2pifC, Fo=1/2pisqrtLC and such like without >> even giving a thought as to how omega gets involved in so many aspects >> of RF. BTW, that's a lower-case, small omega meaning >> 2*pi*the-frequency-of-interest rather than the large Omega which is >> already reserved for Ohms. How does it keep cropping up? What's so >> special about the constant 6.283 and from what is it derived? >> Just curious... >> > > As an old colleague of mine from grad school would say, "It just comes > out in the math." ;) > > The 2*pi factor comes from the time domain / frequency domain > conversion, and the basic behavior of linear differential equations with > constant coefficients. (That's magic.(*)) For now we'll just talk about > LR circuits and pulses. > > A 1-second pulse (time domain) has an equivalent width of 1 Hz > (frequency domain, including negative frequencies). That's pretty > intuitive, and shows that seconds and cycles per second are in some > sense the same 'size'. The two scale inversely, e.g. a 1-ms pulse has > an equivalent width of 1 kHz, also pretty intuitive. (Equivalent width > is the mathematical quantity for which this 1-Hz/1-s inverse relation > holds exactly, independent of the shape of the waveform.) > > Moving gently towards the frequency domain, we have the ideas of > resistance and reactance. Resistance is defined by > > V = IR, (1) > > independent of both time and frequency. Actual resistors generally > behave very much that way, over some reasonable range of frequencies and > power levels. Either V or I can be taken as the independent variable, > i.e. the one corresponding to the dial setting on the power supply, and > the equation gives you the other (dependent) variable. > > A 1-Hz sine wave of unit amplitude at frequency f is given by > > I = sin(2 pi f t), (2) > > and the reactance of an inductance L is > > X = 2 pi f L. (3) > > The reactance is analogous to resistance, except that since inductance > couples to dI/dt rather than I. From the definition of inductance, > > V = L dI/dt. (4) > > Plugging (2) into (4), you get > > V = L dI/dt = L * (2 pi f) cos(2 pi f t) = X_L cos(2 pi f t), (5) > > where X_L is the inductive reactance. > > We see that the voltage dropped by the inductance is phase shifted by > 1/4 cycle. Since the cosine reaches its peak at 0, where the current > (the independent variable) is just going positive, we can say that the > voltage waveform is _advanced_ by a quarter cycle, i.e. that the voltage > is doing what the imposed current was doing a quarter cycle previously. > (This seems like a fine point, but it's crucial to keeping the sign of > the phase shift right, especially when you're a physics/engineering > amphibian like me--the two disciplines use opposite sign conventions.) > > Besides the phase shift, the voltage across the inductance has an extra > factor of 2 pi f. This is often written as a Greek lowercase omega, > which for all you slipshod HTML-mode types is ω = 2πf. > > Writing the sine wave as > > I = sin(ωt) (6) > > is faster, but the factor of 2 pi in amplitude keeps coming up, which it > inescapably must, and it doesn't even really simplify the math much. > > For instance, if we apply a 1-V step function across a series RL with a > time constant > > tau = L/R = 1 second, (7) > > the voltage on the resistor is > > V = 1-exp(-t). (8) > > In the frequency domain, the phase shift makes things a bit more > complicated. If we use our nice real-valued sinusoidal current waveform > (6) that we can see on a scope, then (after a small flurry of math), the > voltage on the resistor comes out as > > V = sin(t - arctan(omega L/R)) / sqrt(1 + (omega L / R)**2). (9) > > This is because sines and cosines actually are sums of components of > both positive and negative frequency, and which don't behave the same > way when you differentiate them: > > sin(omega t) = 1/2 * (exp(j omega t) - exp(-j omega t)) (10) > > and > > cos(omega t) = 1/2 * (exp(j omega t) + exp(-j omega t)). (11) > > By switching to complex notation, and making a gentlemen's agreement to > take the real part of everything before we start predicting actual > measurable quantities, the math gets much simpler. Our sinusoidal input > voltage becomes > > Vin = exp(j omega t) (12) > > and the voltage across the resistor is just the voltage divider thing: > > V/Vin = R / (R + j omega L). (13) > > At low frequencies, the resistance dominates and the inductance doesn't > do anything much, just a small phase shift > > theta ~= - j omega L/R. > > At high frequencies, the inductance dominates. In the middle, the two > effects become comparable at a frequency > > omega0 = R/L. > > At that frequency, the phase shift is -45 degrees and the amplitude is > down by 1/sqrt(2) (-3 dB) and the power dissipated in the resistor falls > to half of its DC value. > > If we're using the series LR as a lowpass filter, that's the frequency > that divides the passband, where the signal mostly gets through, from > the stopband, where it mostly doesn't. > > So when we think in the time domain, a 1-ohm/1-henry LR circuit responds > in about a second, whereas in the frequency domain, its bandwidth rolls > off at omega = 1, i.e. at 1/(2 pi) Hz. > > With sinusoidal waveforms, we can think of 1 second corresponding to 1 > radian per second, whereas with pulses, a 1 second pulse has a 1-Hz-wide > spectrum (counting negative frequencies). > > Thing is, a sine wave varies smoothly and goes through a much more > complicated evolution (positive to negative and back) within a cycle, so > it just takes longer, by a factor that turns out to be 2*pi. > > Cheers > > Phil Hobbs > > > (*) Kipling, "How the Rhinoceros got his skin" > Belay that last bit—it’s exactly backwards. I’ll fix it when I get back from church. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics