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Subject: Re: Snopes Finally Debunks Left-Wing Claim of "Very Fine People" in
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Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 12:45:02 -0400
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On 6/30/2024 5:41 AM, trotsky wrote:
> On 6/29/24 12:04 PM, moviePig wrote:
>> On 6/29/2024 12:15 PM, trotsky wrote:
>>> On 6/28/24 2:50 PM, moviePig wrote:
>>>> On 6/28/2024 3:15 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>>>>> It's seven years after the fact and the damage has long since been 
>>>>> done, but
>>>>> the left-wing fact checkers at Snopes have finally come out and 
>>>>> admitted the
>>>>> whole claim that Trump called neo-Nazis "very fine people" was a 
>>>>> hoax. I have
>>>>> no idea why, but credit where it's due, I suppose?
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-very-fine-people/
>>>>
>>>> Not even Trump would deliberately call Nazis "very fine people". 
>>>> Anyone should realize that even somebody who thought it would never 
>>>> say it.
>>>
>>> Maybe you should read the transcript I posted first.
>>
>> Where?
>>
>>
> 
> Snopes usually isn't totally unreliable like they are here.  Payola 
> maybe?  Who the fuck cares.  Politifact has an actual transcript of what 
> was said by Trump:
> 
> https://www.politifact.com/article/2019/apr/26/context-trumps-very-fine-people-both-sides-remarks/
> 
>  ... [lengthy transcipt] ...

Yes, Trump is a mealy-mouthed SOB who doesn't want to risk alienating 
even the vermin among his supporters.

Meanwhile, enjoy every word of this (via Reddit):

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“Talented and well-practiced in every vice. A stranger to compassion or 
empathy. A liar and a cheat so complete in perfidy that he has elevated 
his dishonesty to hold it up as an ersatz moral principle.

Violent. So long as he can order someone else to do the dirty work. 
Grotesque in body, honorless in action, in possession of a wounded 
self-regard so colossal as to smother any spark of grace.

Treasonous. Not only to his country but to every ally he has ever had. 
The poisoned fruit and rankest flower of racism and contempt for women, 
and utterly devoid of shame for his moral and spiritual bankruptcy.

That is your leader. That is to whom you give your money. That is whom 
you follow and laud. That is whose banner you willingly carry.

Why?

Because he is a mirror, not a lighthouse. You see yourselves in him. He 
is what you would be if you had inherited money and could shed the last 
vestiges of conscience and shame.

No, I do not “respect your choices,” nor do I admire your loyalty and 
dedication to this miserific, demoniac vision. You have demonstrated not 
only a lack of civic virtue, and loyalty to the Republic, and to the 
rule of law, but a willingness to engage in violence and sedition at his 
slightest expressed wish. And you will never, ever admit you were wrong.

Because you see your dark, twisted, resentful dreams in him, and to 
renounce him, is to renounce yourselves.”

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