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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: joes <noreply@example.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 20:16:58 -0000 (UTC) Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <v5sefq$1kji0$1@i2pn2.org> References: <v4vrfg$2793f$1@dont-email.me> <v59797$brmn$1@dont-email.me> <v5b7nv$qvrb$1@dont-email.me> <v5btf3$v0vb$4@dont-email.me> <v5chru$10816$1@i2pn2.org> <v5cn01$149dc$1@dont-email.me> <v5ebvr$1hs89$1@dont-email.me> <v5efod$1ikpr$1@dont-email.me> <v5ejau$1iq57$1@dont-email.me> <v5eup8$1lar1$2@dont-email.me> <v5f1nm$1lp16$1@dont-email.me> <v5f246$1m2fl$1@dont-email.me> <v5f3fg$1lp16$2@dont-email.me> <v5f3j8$1m2fl$2@dont-email.me> <v5f54f$1lp16$3@dont-email.me> <v5f5sd$1mcif$1@dont-email.me> <v5ght9$21jrt$1@dont-email.me> <v5h558$24jbd$7@dont-email.me> <v5jcas$2m18t$2@dont-email.me> <v5k7ju$2qsdr$5@dont-email.me> <v5mcvo$1cgj0$3@i2pn2.org> <v5mklg$3cibm$7@dont-email.me> <v5mo8a$1d3t3$2@i2pn2.org> <v5mqge$3e4fd$2@dont-email.me> <v5msjt$1d3t3$9@i2pn2.org> <v5mtba$3elj0$1@dont-email.me> <v5n2ah$1d3t3$10@i2pn2.org> <v5n2sk$3fm1k$1@dont-email.me> <v5po6i$1h5u1$1@i2pn2.org> <v5pp9m$2jk8$1@dont-email.me> <v5r5p4$1irrf$1@i2pn2.org> <v5s4f4$jvgt$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 20:16:58 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="1723968"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="nS1KMHaUuWOnF/ukOJzx6Ssd8y16q9UPs1GZ+I3D0CM"; User-Agent: Pan/0.145 (Duplicitous mercenary valetism; d7e168a git.gnome.org/pan2) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3379 Lines: 35 Am Sun, 30 Jun 2024 12:25:55 -0500 schrieb olcott: > On 6/30/2024 3:42 AM, joes wrote: >> Am Sat, 29 Jun 2024 15:03:02 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>> On 6/29/2024 2:44 PM, joes wrote: >>>> Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 14:28:20 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>> On 6/28/2024 2:18 PM, joes wrote: >>>>>> Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 12:53:46 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>>> On 6/28/2024 12:41 PM, joes wrote: >>>>>>>> Thanks for leaving the unanswered questions in place, though I’d >>>>>>>> rather have you answer them. >>>>>> Why doesn’t the first recursive H return? >> It should abort, just like the outer one. > The outer HHH meets its abort criteria one execution trace sooner than > the next inner one because HHH needs to see two complete execution > traces before its abort criteria has been met. But it sees that the inner one would abort, so it can let it end normally. > As soon as the outer HHH sees the inner one complete one full execution > trace then the outer one has its abort criteria. Same as the inner does, so the inner one does not in fact repeat. >> No, I mean: why does the inner simulator repeat instead of aborting, >> the same as the outer one does? Repeat. >> My point is: all recursive calls both enter and detect a >> repeating state. > The inner ones always see one less execution trace than the next outer > one, thus could only meet their abort criteria after they have already > been aborted. Why are they aborted? -- Am Fri, 28 Jun 2024 16:52:17 -0500 schrieb olcott: Objectively I am a genius.