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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic
Subject: Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the
 semantics of the x86 language
Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 09:50:42 -0500
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On 7/1/2024 9:37 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 01.jul.2024 om 14:46 schreef olcott:
>> On 7/1/2024 3:32 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>
>> _DDD()
>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>> [00002183] c3               ret
>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>
>> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an
>> emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process until aborted.
>> Once aborted the DDD emulated by HHH immediately stops.
>>
>> At no point in this emulation does the call from DDD
>> correctly emulated by HHH to HHH(DDD) ever return.
>>
>> You can understand this or fail to understand this
>> disagreement is flat out incorrect.
> 
> I understand it, but that does not contradict that the abort is one 
> cycle too soon, which makes it incorrect.

On 7/1/2024 9:27 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
 > Not aborting will loop infinitely.

That you disagree with your own self proves that you are wrong.

If it is ever the case that
 > Not aborting will loop infinitely.
THIS PROVES THAT ABORTING IS NECESSARILY CORRECT

     If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
     until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
     stop running unless aborted then

IT IS 100% COMPLETELY CORRECT TO ABORT

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