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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Cursitor Doom <cd999666@notformail.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Omega Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 17:52:17 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 197 Message-ID: <v5uqcg$168ps$2@dont-email.me> References: <gi228j9kv4ijggtjuitbs1ll5rf99p44cb@4ax.com> <732df2c1-5fb2-61f2-ba91-dda25b10fd72@electrooptical.net> <v5rnte$htga$1@dont-email.me> <e8b4e6e2-6187-173b-a0b0-1e81875f866a@electrooptical.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2024 19:52:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="21ea74393281730d3b3e106e83e4168d"; logging-data="1254204"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1965TN56ejIEK+pWEeVO8iySMuZzERdzs0=" User-Agent: Pan/0.149 (Bellevue; 4c157ba) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ST31y9FycrFqJ+GhwIrJaYX4Iwk= Bytes: 9414 On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 21:17:53 -0400, Phil Hobbs wrote: > On 2024-06-30 09:51, Phil Hobbs wrote: >> Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >>> On 2024-06-30 03:44, Cursitor Doom wrote: >>>> Gentlemen, >>>> >>>> For more decades than I care to remember, I've been using formulae >>>> such as Xc= 1/2pifL, Xl=2pifC, Fo=1/2pisqrtLC and such like without >>>> even giving a thought as to how omega gets involved in so many >>>> aspects of RF. BTW, that's a lower-case, small omega meaning >>>> 2*pi*the-frequency-of-interest rather than the large Omega which is >>>> already reserved for Ohms. How does it keep cropping up? What's so >>>> special about the constant 6.283 and from what is it derived? >>>> Just curious... >>>> >>>> > Okay, once more with feelin'. Hopefully this is a bit more coherent > throughout. > > As an old colleague of mine from grad school would say, "It just comes > out in the math." ;) > > The 2*pi factor comes from the time domain / frequency domain > conversion, and the basic behavior of linear differential equations with > constant coefficients. (That's magic.(*)) Pardon my waving my arms a > bit--that way we can avoid DEs and Fourier integrals. Here goes. > > A 1-second pulse (time domain) has an equivalent width of 1 Hz > (frequency domain, including negative frequencies). That's pretty > intuitive, and shows that seconds and cycles per second are in some > sense the same 'size'. The two scale inversely, e.g. a 1-ms pulse has > an equivalent width of 1 kHz, also pretty intuitive. > > Moving gently towards the frequency domain, we have the ideas of > resistance and reactance. Resistance is defined by > > V = IR, (1) > > independent of both time and frequency. Actual resistors generally > behave very much that way, over some reasonable range of frequencies and > power levels. Either V or I can be taken as the independent variable, > i.e. the one corresponding to the dial setting on the power supply, and > the equation gives you the other (dependent) variable. > > A 1-Hz sine wave of unit amplitude at frequency f is given by > > I = sin(2 pi f t), (2) > > and the reactance of an inductance L is > > X = 2 pi f L. (3) > > The reactance is analogous to resistance, except that inductance couples > to dI/dt rather than I. This comes right out of the definition of > inductance, > > V = L dI/dt. (4) > > Plugging (2) into (4), you get > > V = L dI/dt = L * (2 pi f) cos(2 pi f t). (5) > > We see that the voltage dropped by the inductance is phase shifted by > 1/4 cycle. > > Since the cosine reaches its peak at 0, where the current (the > independent variable) is just going positive, we can say that the > voltage waveform is _advanced_ by a quarter cycle, i.e. that the voltage > is doing what the imposed current was doing a quarter cycle previously. > (**) > > Besides the phase shift, the voltage across the inductance has an extra > factor of 2 pi f. This is often written as a Greek lowercase omega, > which for all you supercool HTML-mode types is ω = 2πf. The > factor ωL comes in exactly the same way as resistance, except for > the frequency dependence and quarter-cycle phase shift, so it's called > _reactance_, as noted above. > > Writing the sine wave as > > I = sin(ωt) (6) > > is faster, but the factor of 2 pi in amplitude keeps coming up, which it > inescapably must, and it doesn't even really simplify the math much. > (Once you get to Fourier transforms, keeping the 2*pi explicit saves > many blunders, it turns out.) > > For instance, if we apply a 1-V step function across a series RL with a > time constant > > tau = L/R = 1 second, (7) > > the voltage on the resistor is > > V = 1-exp(-t). (8) > > This rises from 0 to ~0.63 in 1s, 0.9 in 2.3s, and 0.95 in 3.0s. > > In the frequency domain, the phase shift makes things a bit more > complicated. If we use our nice real-valued sinusoidal current waveform > (6) that we can see on a scope, then (after a small flurry of math), the > voltage on the resistor comes out as > > V = sin(t - arctan(omega L/R)) / sqrt(1 + (omega L / R)**2). (9) > > This is because sines and cosines actually are sums of components of > both positive and negative frequency, which don't behave the same way > when you differentiate them: > > sin(omega t) = 1/2 * (exp(j omega t) - exp(-j omega t)) (10) > > and > > cos(omega t) = 1/2 * (exp(j omega t) + exp(-j omega t)). (***) (11) > > By switching to complex notation and making a gentlemen's agreement to > take the real part of everything before we start predicting actual > measurable quantities, the math gets much simpler. Our sinusoidal input > voltage becomes > > Vin = exp(j omega t) (12) > > and the voltage across the resistor is just the voltage divider thing: > > V/Vin = R / (R + j omega L). (13) > > At low frequencies, the resistance dominates and the inductance doesn't > do anything much, just a small linear phase shift with frequency > > theta ~= - j omega L/R. (14) > > At high frequencies, the inductance dominates. In the middle, the two > effects become comparable at a frequency > > omega0 = R/L. > > At that frequency, the phase shift is -45 degrees and the amplitude is > down by 1/sqrt(2) (-3 dB) and the power dissipated in the resistance > falls to half of its DC value. > > If we're using the series LR as a lowpass filter, omega_0 is the > frequency that divides the passband, where the signal mostly gets > through, from the stopband, where it mostly doesn't. It's worth noting > that if you extrapolate the low-frequency straight line (14), it passes > through 1 radian at omega_0 as well. > > So when we think in the time domain, a 1-ohm/1-henry LR circuit responds > in about a second, whereas in the frequency domain, its bandwidth rolls > off at omega = 1, i.e. at 1/(2 pi) Hz. > > <Correcting brain fart due to trying to do too many things at once> > > Thus with sinusoidal waveforms, we can think of 1 second corresponding > to 1 radian per second, whereas with pulses, a 1 second pulse has a > 1-Hz-wide spectrum (counting negative frequencies). Weird, right? What's > up with that? > > One way of understanding it is that a square pulse has a lot more > high-frequency components than a sine wave. To make our 1-s decaying > exponential resemble a 1-s pulse a bit more closely, we need it to start > from 0 and go back to 0. A first try would be making it symmetric. > That costs you in bandwidth, because going up takes as long as going > down, so you have to speed up the time constant. > > If we speed it up by a factor of 2, the amplitude reaches 1-exp(-1) ~= > 0.63V before starting down again. By the inverse scaling relation, that > doubles the bandwidth, getting us to 2 rad/s. To make it a bit more > square-looking, we could speed it up some more. Getting up to 90% of > full amplitude takes 2.2 time constants, which notionally takes us to > 4.4 rad/s. > > Someplace in there we have to start using Fourier integrals, because > otherwise we'll start thinking that a perfectly square pulse has > infinite bandwidth, which it doesn't. To avoid that, perhaps you'll > take my word that some more math will show that an actually rectangular > pulse gets you up to 2*pi rad/s, i.e. 1 Hz. > ========== REMAINDER OF ARTICLE TRUNCATED ==========