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Path: ...!news.nobody.at!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: The insane progress nobody is talking about Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 18:26:37 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 66 Message-ID: <v5vl0a$1auns$1@dont-email.me> References: <slrnv760nq.ve1.naddy@lorvorc.mips.inka.de> <nult7jlrj1697gnkmo2dmhhd8tmr2utfra@4ax.com> <v5mldu$m1e$1@reader1.panix.com> <v4a08j54mr3vkv51h0dmk5bs75ul12d0oj@4ax.com> <v5pihu$jou$1@panix2.panix.com> <3bu28jhjs75buk3eesv7sgdh1sn76jrc6d@4ax.com> <v5s32s$jvjk$1@dont-email.me> <0dk58jhg7cdm50p6aru94te346dr3ousic@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 03:26:35 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6643055cd3994b308bdbd2877e0e6a23"; logging-data="1407740"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX191ccQeEKFEENZrgyAsiUVm" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:ePAu/+VC3HEdfLKXN75cBZTpTZE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <0dk58jhg7cdm50p6aru94te346dr3ousic@4ax.com> Bytes: 4244 On 7/1/2024 8:58 AM, Paul S Person wrote: > On Sun, 30 Jun 2024 10:02:21 -0700, Dimensional Traveler > <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote: > >> On 6/30/2024 8:42 AM, Paul S Person wrote: >>> On 29 Jun 2024 18:07:58 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote: >>> >>>> Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote: >>>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2024 15:38:38 -0000 (UTC), jdnicoll@panix.com (James >>>>> Nicoll) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> There are no sane Republicans, nor uncorrupt.=20 >>>>> >>>>> That's unduly pessimistic. >>>>> >>>>> They are just local and so unknown to outsiders. >>>>> >>>>> I will, however, concede that they are getting harder to find. >>>> >>>> Again true a decade ago, but at least in our local party the sane people >>>> are being driven out. We have folks running for city council who are >>>> obsessed with stopping abortion and promoting what they claim to be >>>> Christian values. One of the big deals is promotion of school vouchers, >>>> which are likely of real benefit in some urban areas but which here are >>>> primarily used to fund de-facto school segregation. So many of the >>>> small-government pro-business Republicans are no longer active in the >>>> local party. >>> >>> Our wide-open primary (anybody can claim any party they want to), at >>> least some time back, included not just "Republican", but "Old >>> Republican" (ie, pre-Trump), "G.O.P" (also non-Trump) and so on. The >>> actual political parties have nothing to say about this (in the >>> primary). >>> >>> They also regularly include people who believe that "Mayor of Seattle" >>> means that they set National policy on various issues. I don't vote >>> for such persons, as they clearly have no idea what the job they are >>> running for is, and so are unlikely to be good at it. >>> >>> As to de-facto school segregation: "white flight" (from the Public >>> Schools) has been for decades and continues to be a well-known >>> phenomenon. A lot of the attacks on Public Schools are because they >>> let "them" in and, worse, mix "them" with "us". >>> >>> I wonder if the groups running the "white flight" schools realize >>> that, if a certain Supreme Court justice gets his way, Brown v BoE >>> will fall and their entire reason for existing will vanish in puff of >>> legaleeze. >> >> Why would they need to continue once they've won? > > But do they /want/ to win? Wouldn't they rather keep raking in the > bucks from racist parents? > Who said anything about not lying anymore once they've won? > If the latter is the case, they need to see if they can shovel enough > money into his pockets to change his tune. This won't be easy; they'll > be competing with a very rich man who already appears to own him. > > And some people think slavery is dead ... -- I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky dirty old man.