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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: 197 page execution trace of DDD correctly simulated by HHH Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2024 20:36:51 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 51 Message-ID: <v5vljj$1b0k9$3@dont-email.me> References: <v4vrfg$2793f$1@dont-email.me> <v5chru$10816$1@i2pn2.org> <v5cn01$149dc$1@dont-email.me> <v5ebvr$1hs89$1@dont-email.me> <v5efod$1ikpr$1@dont-email.me> <v5ejau$1iq57$1@dont-email.me> <v5eup8$1lar1$2@dont-email.me> <v5f1nm$1lp16$1@dont-email.me> <v5f246$1m2fl$1@dont-email.me> <v5f3fg$1lp16$2@dont-email.me> <v5f3j8$1m2fl$2@dont-email.me> <v5f54f$1lp16$3@dont-email.me> <v5f5sd$1mcif$1@dont-email.me> <v5ght9$21jrt$1@dont-email.me> <v5h558$24jbd$7@dont-email.me> <v5jcas$2m18t$2@dont-email.me> <v5k7ju$2qsdr$5@dont-email.me> <v5mcvo$1cgj0$3@i2pn2.org> <v5mklg$3cibm$7@dont-email.me> <v5mo8a$1d3t3$2@i2pn2.org> <v5mqge$3e4fd$2@dont-email.me> <v5msjt$1d3t3$9@i2pn2.org> <v5mtba$3elj0$1@dont-email.me> <v5n2ah$1d3t3$10@i2pn2.org> <v5n2sk$3fm1k$1@dont-email.me> <v5po6i$1h5u1$1@i2pn2.org> <v5pp9m$2jk8$1@dont-email.me> <v5rcrh$fkks$1@dont-email.me> <v5s44b$jvgt$2@dont-email.me> <v5tp2t$vsqr$1@dont-email.me> <v5u97g$12udb$6@dont-email.me> <v5vi62$1oanb$3@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 03:36:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="be8a74d1ebb79f081dc40b5f7175e5aa"; logging-data="1409673"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX198aNR8c8j5YLnbe2cZm/IY" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:BvsP+Jzev8IMBHPsmEgNUFTJTY4= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v5vi62$1oanb$3@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3932 On 7/1/2024 7:38 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/1/24 8:59 AM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/1/2024 3:23 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>> Op 30.jun.2024 om 19:20 schreef olcott: >>>> >>>> _DDD() >>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>> >>> >>> It cannot possibly return, because HHH aborts itself one cycle too >>> early, showing that the emulation is incorrect. If that is over your >>> head, try to learn how x86 instructions work. >> >> _DDD() >> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >> [00002183] c3 ret >> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >> >> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an >> emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process until aborted. >> >> > > CAN'T BE. > > A "Correct Emulation" is one that produces the same result as the > program at the input. > Which can only possibly occur be disregarding the semantics of the x86 language. Liars would do that ignoramuses would do that. Everyone with the equivalent of a BSCS would know that what I said is true. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer