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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Hibou <vpaereru-unmonitored@yahoo.com.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: "a Pair of Panties" ????? Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 06:40:28 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 32 Message-ID: <v603sc$1gl8d$2@dont-email.me> References: <v5t8mv$tk1f$1@dont-email.me> <v5tgf1$ukmm$1@dont-email.me> <lefiotFbqqtU1@mid.individual.net> <v603b4$1gl8d$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 07:40:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6a7127b7747c6a3f5ce094743625abd6"; logging-data="1594637"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/Qrqf8ADL+q/Svn9b0Ccmb" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:RLGQLlnX8H4IPNHygX5zucaALgk= In-Reply-To: <v603b4$1gl8d$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB, fr-FR Bytes: 2491 Le 02/07/2024 à 06:31, Hibou a écrit : > Le 01/07/2024 à 12:38, occam a écrit : >> On 01/07/2024 07:56, Hibou wrote: >>> >>> I observe that the kilt is singular - two legs, but only one hole. >> >> While in Aberdeen, the question arose: "what's the difference between a >> kilt and a skirt? What do Scottish women wear?" >> >> The wittiest answer I got was that Scotsmen call it a 'kilt' to avoid >> the embarrassment of having to admit that they are wearing a skirt. > > That may well be true; certainly one encounters considerable resistance > among Scots, both men and women, if one calls a kilt a skirt. This, I > think, is just a matter of time and place. At other times and places, it > has been and is normal for men to wear skirts - Roman legionnaires did, > for instance. > > According to the OED, the noun 'kilt' (~1746...) comes from the verb 'to > kilt' (~1340...), at first meaning to tuck (skirts etc.) up round the > body, and later also to gather in vertical pleats.... > > "I'll kilt my coats aboon my knee, And follow my love thro' the water" - > Burns, 1788. > > I have heard a tale of Scots soldiers in the First World War, of water > freezing on the hems of their kilts and chafing their legs raw. Just the > thought makes one wince. Esprit d'escalier : it must've been tough to have to endure chafing on top of chaffing.