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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 07:20:54 -0500
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On 7/2/2024 1:23 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-07-02 01:25:40 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> typedef void (*ptr)();
>> int HHH(ptr P);
>>
>> void Infinite_Loop()
>> {
>>    HERE: goto HERE;
>> }
>>
>> void Infinite_Recursion()
>> {
>>    Infinite_Recursion();
>> }
>>
>> void DDD()
>> {
>>    HHH(DDD);
>> }
>>
>> int main()
>> {
>>    HHH(Infinite_Loop);
>>    HHH(Infinite_Recursion);
>>    HHH(DDD);
>> }
>>
>> Every C programmer that knows what an x86 emulator is knows
>> that when HHH emulates the machine language of Infinite_Loop,
>> Infinite_Recursion, and DDD that it must abort these emulations
>> so that itself can terminate normally.
> 
> The "must" there is not quite correct. If the emulator does not abort
> then it will run forever or until the emulator is aborted by some
> external agent. That is not a problem unless there is an additional
> requirement, not specified above, that the emulator must terminate
> normally.
> 

This <is> the problem that I am willing to discuss.
I am unwilling to discuss any other problem.
This does meet the Sipser approved criteria.

<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
     If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
     until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
     stop running unless aborted then

     H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
     specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>

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