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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ruvim <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: 0 SET-ORDER why? Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 17:42:40 +0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <v6104k$1ll8n$1@dont-email.me> References: <v5fjkr$1p13i$1@dont-email.me> <2024Jun26.094910@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v5gs5j$23lka$2@dont-email.me> <2024Jun28.175045@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <v5p51t$3utd9$2@dont-email.me> <6680c10c$1@news.ausics.net> <v5s019$jbd6$1@dont-email.me> <v5s0d3$jbd6$2@dont-email.me> <bf66af7e3abb6d49d1e6ff2935802477@www.novabbs.com> <v5s8a8$ksnb$1@dont-email.me> <5c6520a0dd123d02281bb631ae5389dc@www.novabbs.com> <v5t1ui$sl14$1@dont-email.me> <v5tral$10nj0$1@dont-email.me> <v5tvgj$11700$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2024 15:42:44 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="57d60550289802839571a21a5d205bf4"; logging-data="1758487"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18cIaP0Hx4UwGfOaQ6E1bCt" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:SuEIEQmLaWDnP+o2E2uuBxfcuaU= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v5tvgj$11700$2@dont-email.me> Bytes: 2832 On 2024-07-01 14:13, Krishna Myneni wrote: > On 7/1/24 04:02, Ruvim wrote: >> On 2024-07-01 05:49, Krishna Myneni wrote: >>> If the community has no issue with retaining 0 SET-ORDER then the >>> standard's wording should be revised to say that the minimum search >>> order is the empty search order, i.e. zero wordlists. >> >> >> Do you mean it's confusing that the search order can contain fewer >> word lists than the implementation defined "minimum search order"? >> >> And if the term "minimum search order" is renamed to "small search >> order" (as an example), will this solve the problem? >> >> > > I wonder if the original proposal for SET-ORDER meant to say "minimal" > instead of "minimum", for argument -1, thereby leading to the inference > that the words FORTH-WORDLIST and SET-ORDER always be present in the > search order. We need to check where else in the standard the term > "minimum search order" appears. In Forth-94: <http://lars.nocrew.org/dpans/dpans16.htm> <http://lars.nocrew.org/dpans/dpansa16.htm> <http://lars.nocrew.org/dpans/a0002.htm> > > For the specification of SET-ORDER with argument -1 replacing "minimum" > with "minimal" would avoid some confusion. Wiktionary says that they are synonyms: <https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/minimum#Adjective> -- Ruvim