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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant?
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 14:00:58 -0500
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On 7/2/2024 1:42 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 02.jul.2024 om 14:22 schreef olcott:
>> On 7/2/2024 3:22 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 03:25 schreef olcott:
>>>> typedef void (*ptr)();
>>>> int HHH(ptr P);
>>>>
>>>> void Infinite_Loop()
>>>> {
>>>>    HERE: goto HERE;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> void Infinite_Recursion()
>>>> {
>>>>    Infinite_Recursion();
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> void DDD()
>>>> {
>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> int main()
>>>> {
>>>>    HHH(Infinite_Loop);
>>>>    HHH(Infinite_Recursion);
>>>>    HHH(DDD);
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> Every C programmer that knows what an x86 emulator is knows
>>>> that when HHH emulates the machine language of Infinite_Loop,
>>>> Infinite_Recursion, and DDD that it must abort these emulations
>>>> so that itself can terminate normally.
>>>
>>> Whether or not it *must* abort is not very relevant. 
>>
>> This <is> the problem that I am willing to discuss.
>> I am unwilling to discuss any other problem.
>> This does meet the Sipser approved criteria.
>>
>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>>      If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
>>      until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
>>      stop running unless aborted then
>>
>>      H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
>>      specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
>> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
> 
> Repeating the same thing that has already been proved to be irrelevant 
> does not bring the discussion any further.
> Sipser is not relevant, because that is about a correct simulation. Your 
> simulation is not correct.
> 

If you disagree with this you are either dishonest
or clueless I no longer care which one.

_DDD()
[00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d               pop ebp
[00002183] c3               ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]

DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an
emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process until aborted.

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