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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the
 semantics of the x86 language
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 14:48:17 -0500
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On 7/2/2024 2:22 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 02.jul.2024 om 20:43 schreef olcott:
>> On 7/2/2024 1:59 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-01 12:44:57 +0000, olcott said:
>>>
>>>> On 7/1/2024 1:05 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>>> On 2024-06-30 17:18:09 +0000, olcott said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard just said that he affirms that when DDD correctly
>>>>>> simulated by HHH calls HHH(DDD) that this call returns even
>>>>>> though the semantics of the x86 language disagrees.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/30/2024 7:34 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>  > It is still true that the xemantics of the x86
>>>>>>  > language define the behavior of a set of bytes,
>>>>>>  > as the behavior when you ACTUALLY RUN THEM,
>>>>>>  > and nothing else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard thinks that he can get away with disagreeing with this
>>>>>> verified fact:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The call from DDD to HHH(DDD) when N steps of DDD are correctly
>>>>>> emulated by any pure function x86 emulator HHH cannot possibly
>>>>>> return.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is your HHH so you should know whether it returns. Others may
>>>>> have wrong impression about it if they have trusted your lies.
>>>>
>>>> I have never lied about this.
>>>
>>> At least you have claimed more than proven.
>>>
>>>> _DDD()
>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>
>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an
>>>> emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process until aborted.
>>>
>>> The correctness remain unproven.
>>>
>>
>> IT IS PROVEN BY THE SEMANTICS OF THE X86 LANGUAGE
>> THAT YOU REMAIN WILLFULLY IGNORANT OF SEMANTICS OF
>> THE X86 LANGUAGE DOES NOT MEAN IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN.
>>
> 
> Please, point to the paragraph in the specification of the X86 language 
> that says that a two cycle recursion should be aborted after one cycle.
> Claiming that the abort is related to the x86 language is apparently 
> wilfully incorrect.
> 
> 

I am not going to show you the trace of the Peano axioms
that prove the 2 + 3 = 5, if you disagree you are a liar
or an ignoramus.

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