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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Why don't people like lisp? Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 20:59:24 -0600 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 31 Message-ID: <v62eqe$20o3c$1@dont-email.me> References: <v5nbe0$3he95$1@dont-email.me> <v5nsmf$3nsv3$1@dont-email.me> <v5nu23$3obdr$1@dont-email.me> <87msmzjqwi.fsf@nightsong.com> <v62497$1rh22$1@dont-email.me> <87ed8bjpoj.fsf@nightsong.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Injection-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 04:59:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="3f0e81d7c7223a14b0e1e4a4a70f956d"; logging-data="2121836"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+EVH64v8tRlRefCCQXl/p1G9+NCYT5tiw=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:fnZWhqQ89VCyTajlzRdvpd4J6Jo= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <87ed8bjpoj.fsf@nightsong.com> Bytes: 3384 T24gNy8yLzIwMjQgNjoxNSBQTSwgUGF1bCBSdWJpbiB3cm90ZToNCj4gTGF3cmVuY2UgRCdP bGl2ZWlybyA8bGRvQG56LmludmFsaWQ+IHdyaXRlczoNCj4+IElmIGEgZnVuY3Rpb24gbGlr ZSDigJxtYXjigJ0gb3Ig4oCcbWlu4oCdIGlzIGRlZmluZWQgdG8gcmV0dXJuIGEgbnVtYmVy LA0KPiANCj4gVGhleSBhcmUgZGVmaW5lZCB0byByZXR1cm4gdGhlIGxhcmdlciBvciBzbWFs bGVyIG9mIHR3byBtZW1iZXJzIG9mIGFueQ0KPiBkYXRhdHlwZSB3aXRoIGFuIG9yZGVyIHJl bGF0aW9uLCBlLmcuIGxleGljb2dyYXBoaWMgb3JkZXIgb24gc3RyaW5ncy4NCj4gVGhlcmUg aXMgbm8gaW5maW5pdHkgZm9yIHN0cmluZ3MuICBUaGVyZSdzIGFsc28gbm9uZSBmb3IgaW50 ZWdlcnMsIGZvcg0KPiB0aGF0IG1hdHRlci4NCj4gDQo+PiB0aGVuIGl0IG1ha2VzIHNlbnNl IHRoYXQgdGhlIG1heGltdW0gb2YgYW4gZW1wdHkgbGlzdCBzaG91bGQgYmUgLeKIniwNCj4g DQo+IE1laCwgaXQncyBqdXN0IHVuZGVmaW5lZC4gIE90aGVyd2lzZSB5b3UgY2FuJ3QgdGVs bCB3aGV0aGVyIHRoZSBsaXN0IGlzDQo+IGVtcHR5IG9yIGFjdHVhbGx5IGNvbnRhaW5zIC3i iJ4gYXMgYSB2YWx1ZS4NCg0KQ29uc2lkZXIgYSBTVU0gb2YgYSBzZXQgb2YgaW50ZWdlcnM6 IG1hdGhlbWF0aWNpYW5zIGRlZmluZSB0aGF0IG9wZXJhdG9yIA0KdG8gcmV0dXJuIDAgZm9y IHRoZSBlbXB0eSBzZXQNCg0KU2ltaWxhcmx5Og0KTUFYIGVtcHR5LXNldCA9IC1vbw0KTUlO IGVtcHR5LXNldCA9ICtvbw0KUFJPRFVDVCBlbXB0eS1zZXQgPSAxDQphbmQsIGluIGdlbmVy YWwsDQpHUk9VUCBPUEVSQVRPUiBlbXB0eS1zZXQgPSBncm91cC1pZGVudGl0eS1lbGVtZW50 DQoNClRoaXMgY29udmVudGlvbiBtYWtlcyBhIHdob2xlIGxvdCBvZiBzZW5zZSBiZWNhdXNl LCBmb3Igb25lIHRoaW5nLCBpdCANCm1ha2VzIGRlZmluaXRpb24gb2YgaW5kZWZpbml0ZSBu dW1iZXIgb2YgYXJndW1lbnQgZnVuY3Rpb25zIHZlcnkgZWFzeS4NCg0KRm9yIGV4YW1wbGUg U1VNIG5pbCA9IDANCmFuZCBTVU0gKENPTlMgeCBsaXN0KSA9IHggKyBTVU0gbGlzdA0KDQpJ ZiB5b3UgdHJ5IHRoaXMgc29ydCBvZiBkZWZpbml0aW9uIGZvciBNQVgsIHRoZSBvbmx5IHZh bHVlIGluIGFsbCBrbm93biANCm1hdGhlbWF0aWNzIHRoYXQgY2FuIHJlcGxhY2UgMCBpbiB0 aGUgYWJvdmUgaXMgLW9vLg0KDQpJZiB5b3Ugd2FudCB0byBnZXQgaW50byBkZXRhaWxzLCB3 aGF0IEkndmUgc2FpZCBoZXJlIGFwcGxpZXMgdG8gYWJlbGlhbiANCmdyb3Vwczsgd2UgbmVl ZCB0byBiZSBjYXJlZnVsIGFib3V0IG9yZGVyIGluIG90aGVyIHNldHRpbmdzLg0KDQo+PiBh bmQgYSBsb3Qgb2Ygc3BlY2lhbCBjYXNlcyBubyBsb25nZXIgYmVjb21lIHNwZWNpYWwuDQo+ IA0KPiBNb3JlIGxpa2VseSBhIGxvdCBvZiBlcnJvcnMgZ28gdW5kZXRlY3RlZC4gIEJldHRl ciB0byBoYW5kbGUgdGhlIHNwZWNpYWwNCj4gY2FzZXMgaW4gc29tZSBzYW5lIHdheSwgaWYg dGhleSBjYW4gaGFwcGVuIGluIHRoZSBwcm9ncmFtIGFuZCBuZWVkDQo+IGhhbmRsaW5nLg0K DQpQUyBvbyBpcyBtZWFudCB0byBzdGFuZCBmb3IgbnVtZXJpY2FsIGluZmluaXR5Lg0KLS0g DQpKZWZmIEJhcm5ldHQNCg0K