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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: RE: Re: Grease and waxes Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2024 23:09:03 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 42 Message-ID: <v62fch$20usq$2@dont-email.me> References: <2sBgO.71834$J8n7.36771@fx12.iad> <v5vmqk$1b51j$1@dont-email.me> <Qd_gO.467$bhp2.431@fx15.iad> Reply-To: frkrygow@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 05:09:06 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="35596bb62f58f0f85bd666fac9c7ebf9"; logging-data="2128794"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18w5zTbsheA9s5lDkFTh7Bmf8Mj2nOXC+M=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:qtNPoj+zX6zAsGQ40T9EyBj4QIQ= In-Reply-To: <Qd_gO.467$bhp2.431@fx15.iad> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3585 On 7/2/2024 5:24 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: > On Mon Jul 1 21:57:40 2024 Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 7/1/2024 1:12 PM, Tom Kunich wrote: >>> As usual the obvious candidates without a shred of knowledge of chemistry told you all that I didn't know what I was talking about when I said that Silca was making a block that looked like Chocolate that converted grease to wax. >>> >>> I have continued to be curious why people that know nothing would say things about which they know nothing. Grease and wax asr ONE chemical chain from being the same thing. Where the hell do you get Candle Wax from - TALLOW - which is animal fat. The lubricating grease on a new chain (SRAM no longer put this grease on a chain) is petroleum based but the chemistry is the same. >>> >>> And what would bring the usual noisome candidates to call Silca liars because I reported their product? >> >> It's difficult to tell who or what you're talking about, given your >> usual total lack of citations, quotations, etc. I suspect it's more of >> your fantasies or hallucinations. >> >> But to discuss a matter of fact: "Where the hell do you get Candle Wax >> from - TALLOW - which is animal fat" has been wrong for normal >> commercial candles for well over 100 years. See >> https://www.gregorylefever.com/pdfs/candle.pdf >> or https://candles.org >> >> Some people still make or value tallow candles. Those are mostly the >> sorts of people who weave their own wool to make their own clothes, >> raise their own chickens, and tell time using only sundials. Heck, they >> probably use downtube friction shifters! >> >> -- >> - Frank Krygowski >> > > > > > I should not be surprised that because I pointed one of Silca's products is a chemical means of conterting the grease on a new chain into wax, Liebermann and Krygowski call them liars and thieves. > > Now Frank used ALL of his knowledge gained as a Plant Engineer to cite an article filled with wishes and dreams of early settlers for gaining the gift of light at times other than daylight. Of course people of the 17th century didn't understand very little about chemistry but to someone as slow as Krygowski, his useless citation provided him ALL of rhe knowledge necessary to deny chemistry advances of Silca. I said nothing about Silca. I merely pointed out that you were wrong in your claim that candle wax comes from tallow. As I said, these days it doesn't, except in very weird instances. -- - Frank Krygowski