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From: David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no>
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Subject: Re: Baby X is bor nagain
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:08:35 +0200
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On 03/07/2024 02:23, bart wrote:
> On 03/07/2024 00:58, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>
>>> On 02/07/2024 16:00, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 01/07/2024 13:09, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>>>> bart <bc@freeuk.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using products like tcc doesn't mean never using gcc. (Especially 
>>>>>>> on Linux
>>>>>>> where you will have it installed anyway.)
>>>>>> The parenthetical remark is wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean it is possible for a Linux installation to not have gcc
>>>>> preinstalled?
>>>> I mean that saying "on Linux ... you will have it installed anyway" is
>>>> wrong.
>>>>
>>>>> Sure, although in the dozen or two versions I've come across, it
>>>>> always has been.
>>>> I'm not sure what you mean by a "version".  Every version (in the sense
>>>> of release number) of a source-only Linux distribution will have gcc
>>>> installed, but is that all you mean?  Source-only distributions are 
>>>> rare
>>>> and not widely used.
>>>
>>> No I mean binary distributions (unless the install process silently
>>> compiled from source; I've no idea).
>>
>> Which ones?
>>
> 
> I really, really don't remember. I've tinkered with Linux every so often 
> for 20, maybe 25 years. You used to be able to order a job-lot of CDs 
> with different versions. Few did much.
> 
> Then there were various ones I tried under Virtual Box. All had gcc.
> 
> I must have tried half a dozen, maybe more, on RPis. Those I know all 
> had gcc too.  So did a laptop or two with Linux. As does WSL now.
> 
> I'm not sure what you're trying to do here.
> 
> I will admit that it might not be 100% certain that a Linux OS on a 
> system on which someone is planning to run a C compiler will have gcc 
> installed, although that is not my experience.
> 
> Will that do?

In my experience, Linux distributions (which is a much more correct term 
than your "versions") rarely install gcc by default, unless they are 
source-based distributions.  But virtually all will have gcc available 
for easy installation from their repositories.  And they will pull it in 
automatically if the user installs something that requires it to run, or 
to install (such as some kinds of drivers that need to be matched to the 
kernel being used).

So perhaps instead of insisting, incorrectly, that gcc is almost always 
installed on Linux, you could just say that gcc is almost always easily 
available, and move on.  (And perhaps it is so easily installed that you 
did so without noticing it on your systems.)