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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Architectural implications of locate mode I/O and channels Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:09:28 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 14 Message-ID: <v63ii8$26l7v$1@dont-email.me> References: <v61jeh$k6d$1@gal.iecc.com> <v61oc8$1pf3p$1@dont-email.me> <v62fmt$nao$1@gal.iecc.com> <2024Jul3.075207@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 15:09:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f28b6bab8bc82838f74d2ec79acd3ef6"; logging-data="2315519"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19B27sPS/wQuV7Y/LAaxX5m/s3ddAnWb5g=" User-Agent: Pan/0.159 (Vovchansk; ) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Qq6UoAn98/Aj079h43b+oYchjzU= Bytes: 1705 On Wed, 03 Jul 2024 05:52:07 GMT, Anton Ertl wrote: > Interestingly, this is one development that has not been repeated in > microprocessors AFAIK. If they did not want to spend hardware on a > separate DMA device, they just let the software use polling of the I/O > device. For the 8086 and 68000, I guess that patents may have > discouraged adopting this idea; when the patents ran out, they had > established an ecosystem with separate DMA devices. And of course for > the early RISCs there was no way to do that in microcode. There was the 8089 coprocessor for the 8086, it was used in the Apricot PC. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_8089>