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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:19:20 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 41 Message-ID: <v63ml8$27f1a$2@dont-email.me> References: <v5vkun$1b0k9$1@dont-email.me> <v60dci$1ib5p$1@dont-email.me> <v60red$1kr1q$2@dont-email.me> <v61hn7$1oec9$1@dont-email.me> <v61ipa$1og2o$2@dont-email.me> <v61jod$1oec9$2@dont-email.me> <v61leu$1p1uo$1@dont-email.me> <dd109397687b2f8e74c3e1e3d826772db8b65e40@i2pn2.org> <v62i31$21b7a$1@dont-email.me> <d593179ccad2eef1e84ab6eeddb0f255b2b386e5@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 16:19:20 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="29a678b7ecb7074967021c8dcb9f1179"; logging-data="2341930"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/eThcG6Eq+It354dvYxr3/" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:EA0b3ftSIOBTusUeMJL2v46JlDw= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <d593179ccad2eef1e84ab6eeddb0f255b2b386e5@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2948 On 7/3/2024 9:11 AM, joes wrote: > Am Tue, 02 Jul 2024 22:55:12 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 7/2/2024 10:50 PM, joes wrote: >>> Am Tue, 02 Jul 2024 14:46:38 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 7/2/2024 2:17 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 21:00 schreef olcott: >>>>>> On 7/2/2024 1:42 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 14:22 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 3:22 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 03:25 schreef olcott: > >>>>> HHH repeats the process twice and aborts too soon. >>>> >>>> DDD is correctly emulated by any HHH that can exist which calls this >>>> emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process until aborted (which may be >>>> never). >>> Whatever HHH does, it does not run forever but aborts. >>> >> HHH halts on input DDD. >> DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly halt. > WTF? It only calls HHH, which you just said halts. > An aborted simulation does not count as halting. Reaching it own machine address 00002183 counts as halting. DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly do that. _DDD() [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 [00002182] 5d pop ebp [00002183] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer