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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 09:29:49 -0500
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On 7/3/2024 9:16 AM, joes wrote:
> Am Wed, 03 Jul 2024 08:27:40 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>> On 7/3/2024 6:44 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 7/2/24 11:43 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 7/2/2024 10:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 7/2/24 11:07 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 9:35 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 10:03 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 8:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 9:32 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 8:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 9:18 PM, olcott wrote:
> 
>>>>>>>>>>> YOU are just a liar, as proved by the fact that you can not
>>>>>>>>>>> give the Diagonalization proof you claimed you had.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But I am NOT disagreeing with the x86 language.
>>>>>>>>> Can you point out what fact of it I am disagreing about it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, and x86n emulation is only fully correct if it continues to
>>>>>>> the final end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you say such ridiculously stupid things that you are are
>>>>>> false?
>>>>> And the only CORRECT EMULATION of that program is to infiniately loop
>>>>> in the emulation.
>>>> Not for a freaking termination analyzer nitwit.
>>> Why do they get to lie?
> Open question.
> 
>>>>> Nothing says that you can't make a halt decider work with partial
>>>>> emulation for SOME inputs. But the halt Decider just isn't itself a
>>>>> fully correct emulator.
>>>> You keep stupidly saying that less than an infinite emulation is an
>>>> incorrect emulation. Why do you keep stupidly doing that?
>>> Because it is. Partial emulations only show partial truth, and truth is
>>> the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
>>> BEHAVIOR needs the FULL description of what happens.
>>>
>> Why do you keep lying about this?
>> As soon as HHH has seen a repeating state it has seen enough.
> If the state is actually the same. But the simulated HHH sets a flag
> or something to keep track if it is itself simulating a repetition. <-
> Which it therefore isn’t.
> 

_DDD()
[00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
[0000217f] 83c404     add esp,+04
[00002182] 5d         pop ebp
[00002183] c3         ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]

*This is the repeating state*
Begin Local Halt Decider Simulation   Execution Trace Stored at:1138cc
[00002172][001138bc][001138c0] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173][001138bc][001138c0] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175][001138b8][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a][001138b4][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
New slave_stack at:14e2ec
[00002172][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
[00002173][0015e2e4][0015e2e8] 8bec       mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
[00002175][0015e2e0][00002172] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
[0000217a][0015e2dc][0000217f] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
Local Halt Decider: Infinite Recursion Detected Simulation Stopped

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