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Path: ...!feeds.phibee-telecom.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant --- AKA is Fred a Liar ? Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 11:24:14 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 59 Message-ID: <v63tve$28dpi$9@dont-email.me> References: <v5vkun$1b0k9$1@dont-email.me> <211a07c98d1fc183ed3e6c079ec1e883dd45f1cc@i2pn2.org> <v62f92$20moo$3@dont-email.me> <623debd817e63a256100bb15fed3af8d4fb969fe@i2pn2.org> <v62hc7$20moo$6@dont-email.me> <e3c734b6a1ce3386210f7700bf03d183334d4d55@i2pn2.org> <v63jkc$26loi$7@dont-email.me> <0600a243a3bb843ec505712dc7746d41e0ca66dc@i2pn2.org> <v63n8u$27f1a$3@dont-email.me> <v63rd7$24jon$1@dont-email.me> <v63s2c$28dpi$1@dont-email.me> <v63sq3$28goi$4@dont-email.me> <v63t32$28dpi$5@dont-email.me> <v63tjq$23vu$1@news.muc.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2024 18:24:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="29a678b7ecb7074967021c8dcb9f1179"; logging-data="2373426"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/y+D303gM/Or1IGft0Ftus" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:vTU9FHGAG7iiN44kzHg4/wI4fJs= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v63tjq$23vu$1@news.muc.de> Bytes: 3632 On 7/3/2024 11:18 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote: >> On 7/3/2024 11:04 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 17:51 schreef olcott: >>>> On 7/3/2024 10:40 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: > > [ .... ] > >>>>>> _DDD() >>>>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] > >>>>>> *This is the repeating state* > >>>>> But not an *infinitely* repeating state. > >>>> The criteria that I spent two years writing and the best selling >>>> author of theory of computation textbooks agrees with says nothing >>>> about *infinitely* repeating state. > >>> Irrelevant, because that is about a correct simulation. Your simulation >>> is incorrect, so Sipser does not apply here. > >> OK you are a liar then. > > I don't think so. There is only one liar on this newsgroup, and it's not > Fred. > *A liar is anyone that denies this* _DDD() [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 [00002182] 5d pop ebp [00002183] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat this process until the emulated DDD is aborted. >> -- >> Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius >> hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer > -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer