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From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the
 semantics of the x86 language
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:46:20 +0200
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Op 03.jul.2024 om 20:37 schreef olcott:
> On 7/3/2024 1:25 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 19:58 schreef olcott:
>>> On 7/3/2024 12:51 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 18:03 schreef olcott:
>>>>>
>>>
>>> _DDD()
>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>
>>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an emulated HHH(DDD)
>>>>> to repeat this process an endless number of times until aborted
>>>>> or out-of-memory error.
>>>> Anyone knowing the x86 language knows that a program cannot be 
>>>> programmed to do two different things
>>>> It cannot do both run out of memory *and* abort.
>>>
>>> DDD correctly emulated by any element of the infinite
>>> set of every pure function HHH cannot possibly reach
>>> its own ret instruction and halt. 
>>
>> Exactly! Well done! This proves that HHH cannot possibly correctly 
>> simulate itself. If it aborts, it does so one cycle too soon.
>>
> 
> My system of reasoning could be used to make a chatbot
> that would make all the propagandists look foolish even
> to themselves. The alternative is the destruction of the
> planet to earn a couple of more bucks.
> 
> This is not some little game that can be played for
> trollish sadism. It has consequences.
> 

I appreciate this motivation, but it does not help to make the 
simulation correct. Better try something that can help, instead of 
spoiling your time with something that does not work as you expected.