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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the
 semantics of the x86 language
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 13:59:57 -0500
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On 7/3/2024 1:46 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 03.jul.2024 om 20:37 schreef olcott:
>> On 7/3/2024 1:25 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 19:58 schreef olcott:
>>>> On 7/3/2024 12:51 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 18:03 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _DDD()
>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>
>>>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an emulated HHH(DDD)
>>>>>> to repeat this process an endless number of times until aborted
>>>>>> or out-of-memory error.
>>>>> Anyone knowing the x86 language knows that a program cannot be 
>>>>> programmed to do two different things
>>>>> It cannot do both run out of memory *and* abort.
>>>>
>>>> DDD correctly emulated by any element of the infinite
>>>> set of every pure function HHH cannot possibly reach
>>>> its own ret instruction and halt. 
>>>
>>> Exactly! Well done! This proves that HHH cannot possibly correctly 
>>> simulate itself. If it aborts, it does so one cycle too soon.
>>>
>>
>> My system of reasoning could be used to make a chatbot
>> that would make all the propagandists look foolish even
>> to themselves. The alternative is the destruction of the
>> planet to earn a couple of more bucks.
>>
>> This is not some little game that can be played for
>> trollish sadism. It has consequences.
>>
> 
> I appreciate this motivation, but it does not help to make the 
> simulation correct. Better try something that can help, instead of 
> spoiling your time with something that does not work as you expected.

That you lie about how it works does not mean it doesn't work.

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