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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: People are still trying to get away with disagreeing with the
 semantics of the x86 language
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 14:23:14 -0500
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On 7/3/2024 2:15 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
> Op 03.jul.2024 om 20:59 schreef olcott:
>> On 7/3/2024 1:46 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 20:37 schreef olcott:
>>>> On 7/3/2024 1:25 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 19:58 schreef olcott:
>>>>>> On 7/3/2024 12:51 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 18:03 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _DDD()
>>>>>> [00002172] 55               push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002173] 8bec             mov ebp,esp   ; housekeeping
>>>>>> [00002175] 6872210000       push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>>>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff       call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>>>>> [0000217f] 83c404           add esp,+04
>>>>>> [00002182] 5d               pop ebp
>>>>>> [00002183] c3               ret
>>>>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by HHH which calls an emulated HHH(DDD)
>>>>>>>> to repeat this process an endless number of times until aborted
>>>>>>>> or out-of-memory error.
>>>>>>> Anyone knowing the x86 language knows that a program cannot be 
>>>>>>> programmed to do two different things
>>>>>>> It cannot do both run out of memory *and* abort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DDD correctly emulated by any element of the infinite
>>>>>> set of every pure function HHH cannot possibly reach
>>>>>> its own ret instruction and halt. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Exactly! Well done! This proves that HHH cannot possibly correctly 
>>>>> simulate itself. If it aborts, it does so one cycle too soon.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> My system of reasoning could be used to make a chatbot
>>>> that would make all the propagandists look foolish even
>>>> to themselves. The alternative is the destruction of the
>>>> planet to earn a couple of more bucks.
>>>>
>>>> This is not some little game that can be played for
>>>> trollish sadism. It has consequences.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I appreciate this motivation, but it does not help to make the 
>>> simulation correct. Better try something that can help, instead of 
>>> spoiling your time with something that does not work as you expected.
>>
>> That you lie about how it works does not mean it doesn't work.
>>
> 
> You are too soon with the words lie and liar. It does not contribute to 
> a honest discussion.
> That you hope that it works, does not mean that it works, even when your 
> hope is based on an appreciated motivation.

You are essentially disagreeing with arithmetic.
There is an arithmetic to the meaning of words
and to the behavior of x86 code.

When I say 2 + 3 = 5 you are not free to disagree
without big a liar. As soon as you disagree THAT MAKES YOU A LIAR

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Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
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