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From: RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Willful stupidity at the CDC. Dairy H5N1
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 16:53:02 -0500
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On 6/25/2024 8:41 PM, RonO wrote:
> https://www.cdc.gov/bird-flu/php/monitoring-bird-flu/agenda.html#:~:text=Since%20April%202024%2C%20several%20human,Bird%20Flu%3A%20Current%20Situation).
> 
> The CDC has issued their public health agenda for the H5N1 situation 
> comedy that they are currently playing out.
> 
> Their primary objective is what it should have been from day one.
> 
> QUOTE:
> Objective 1
> Prevent infection and illness in people exposed to HPAI A(H5N1) viruses.
> END QUOTE:
> 
> They have known for months what they needed to do in order to meet this 
> objective, but never initiated an effective program that would 
> accomplish this objective.
> 
> They needed to identify all the infected herds, and quarantine them and 
> the workers, and close contacts of those workers, on those farms.  They 
> needed to require personal protective equipment for all humans working 
> with the infected cattle.  They never attempted to identify all the 
> infected herds and only "recommended" personal protective equipment be 
> used by workers working with infected cattle.  They never attempted to 
> identify all the infected herds so that they could attempt to keep 
> humans at those farms from being infected.
> 
> As sad as it may seem they still refuse to do what they know that they 
> should have been doing from day one, and claim that continuing to do the 
> monitoring and work with the virus will meet their #1 objective when it 
> never will.  The longer that the virus is allowed to spread among the 
> dairy herds the more dairy workers will be infected.  If the workers do 
> not know that the herd is infected they have no reason to use personal 
> protective gear, and are open to getting infected.
> 
> It has to be some type of willful stupidity that they refuse to admit 
> that they have been wrong for months, and instead of initiate what they 
> should have done months ago, they want to keep doing what is not working.
> 
> All they needed to do was to start testing pooled milk samples from 
> every dairy and testing them.  The FDA had tested milk processing plants 
> in 34 states by the end of April.  At that time only 9 states were known 
> to have positive herds, but processing plants in 9 new states (not then 
> known to have positive herds) produced H5N1 positive milk products.  The 
> CDC could have gone to those plants, and gotten a list of all the dairy 
> herds that could have contributed to the positive samples and tested 
> those herds, but no one wanted to find any new positive herds.  The FDA 
> released the names of the states producing positive milk products on May 
> 10th, but still no one used the information to identify more herds in 
> more states.  Since then only 3 more states have admitted to having 
> positive herds and 2 of those states were already known to have produced 
> the positive FDA samples.  Those herds would have been identified much 
> sooner if anyone had acted on the FDA findings.  There are a lot more 
> dairy workers being exposed to infected herds than they want to admit.
> 
> Ron Okimoto

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/4th-human-case-bird-flu-linked-dairy-cow/story?id=111654647

Another human infection with the Dairy virus.  A Colorado dairy worker 
with eye symptoms only was verified to be infected by the H5N1 dairy 
influenza.  Colorado currently has the most infected herds in the last 
30 days, and the reason why is that this worker is likely just the tip 
of the iceberg for workers that were infected.  Colorado wasn't a state 
listed as getting cattle from Texas, so it is likely that an infected 
human took the virus to Colorado, and other infected humans have likely 
spread the virus around to other herds in the state, but the CDC and 
USDA still are displaying willful stupidity and not admitting to how the 
virus has been transmitted to so many herds in so many states.  The 
virus does not remain infective on clothing and skin long enough for the 
workers to take it to other states.  They obviously have, had to be 
infected and shedding virus in order to transfer the infection to so 
many states and so many herds within the states.  The CDC and USDA still 
refuse to start testing herds in order to identify all the infected 
cattle, so that the dairy workers can be warned and be protected.  Only 
12 states have admitted to having infected herds at this time, but 
neither the CDC, nor the USDA has bothered to look for infected herds, 
and most people that have commented on it seem to think that there are 
probably over 20 states with infected herds in the lower 48 (at least 
double the number of states verified to have infected herds at this time).

There are a lot more infected herds and a lot more dairy workers exposed 
to infected cattle, but willful stupidity reigns at the CDC and USDA and 
they refuse to do what has needed to be done for months.  As crazy as it 
may seem they seem to be waiting and hoping that the virus burns through 
the infected herds before it can be transmitted to other herds, but they 
know that it takes over 6 weeks for the virus to burn through a herd so 
that the herd is no longer infective, and the virus obviously spreads 
rapidly to other dairy herds via human activity.  The result is that the 
number of infected herds in the states that they are "monitoring" have 
just kept increasing because they won't identify the infected herds and 
start human contact tracing and quarantine procedures in order to stop 
the spread.

The more humans allowed to be infected, the more chance the virus has of 
further adapting to infecting humans, resulting in the next pandemic.

Ron Okimoto