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From: Andrew <andrew@spam.net>
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android
Subject: Do Google/Samsung SIMULTANEOUSLY fully support more than one release at a time?
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 23:24:14 -0000 (UTC)
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Q: Do they SIMULTANEOUSLY fully support more than one release at a time?
A: ?

Note: "Full support" is specifically intended to mean they promise to fix
EVERY bug that they know of in that release (not just some bugs - but all).

The question came up on the Apple newsgroup today, given Apple is clearly
on record for never having SIMULTANEOUSLY supported more than a single
release at a time for full hotfix support (i.e., a promise to fix all bugs
they know of)... whether Google/Samsung are similar to Apple - or not.

Are they?

With the EU forcing phone OEMs to declare not only how long their batteries
last in number of chargers before they drop below acceptable levels, the UK
also required OEMs to publicly declare their promised full support length.

In response, Apple and Google and Samsung are on record for full operating
system bugfix support for five years, seven years, and seven years
respectively for upcoming devices (with Google/Samsung making the ambiguous
statement that it could be "up to" seven releases in that time frame while
Apple makes the unambiguous statement that they have never simultaneously
supported more than one release at a time).

In summary, does anyone know if Google/Samsung fully support SIMULTANEOUSLY
more than one Android release at a time? Or just one?

REFERENCES IN THE SIG.
-- 
From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups:
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.mobile.ipad,alt.privacy
Subject: Re: Ignoring requests for Apple ID
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 22:28:13 -0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <v64j9t$2d0kh$1@dont-email.me>

 <https://screenrant.com/apple-product-security-update-lifespan/>

<https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases>

<https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/>

And, more to the point of the news reported today, Apple will only commit 
to "at least" five years of full support for any of their iPhone models.
 *Apple finally confirms how long it will support iPhones*
        *and it's less than Samsung and Google*

<https://www.androidauthority.com/iphone-software-support-commitment-3449135/>

And, get this: Apple only did so because the UK forced them to do it!
 *Apple Commits to at Least Five Years of iPhone Security Updates*
 "Apple has revealed its commitment to a minimum of five years of 
  iPhone security software updates from the date a device is 
  launched, thanks to a new legal requirement in the United Kingdom"

<https://www.macrumors.com/2024/06/06/apple-iphone-security-updates-five-year-minimum/>

Further references below because the Apple religious zealots always
say they don't like any particular author of every fact they hate.
 *Apple will provide a minimum of five years of iPhone security updates*

<https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/6/24172843/apple-iphone-minimum-five-years-security-updates>

 *Apple Reveals Its iPhone Gets at Least 5 Years of Security Updates*

<https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apple-reveals-its-iphone-gets-at-least-five-years-of-security-updates/>

 *Apple commits to 5 years of security updates for the iPhone, but that's
not the whole story*
 <https://mashable.com/article/apple-iphone-security-updates-5-years>

 *Apple says your new iPhone will get at least five years of security
updates*

<https://www.imore.com/iphone/apple-says-your-new-iphone-will-get-at-least-five-years-of-security-updates-but-history-suggests-itll-be-significantly-longer>

 *Apple commits to minimum of five years of iPhone security software
updates from the date a device is launched

<https://appleworld.today/apple-commits-to-minimum-of-five-years-of-iphone-security-software-updates-from-the-date-a-device-is-launched/>

While the Apple religious zealots will hope to dear God that Apple
will fully support their devices longer than that, Apple still only
fully supports a single release - such that here's are reasons iPhones
always have more zero day holes and there are reasons why the iPhone 
is (and always was!) the most actively exploited phone in history.
 *End of Life? End of Support? End of Security Updates?*
 <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8415153>