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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Can ADD be this severe?
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 19:40:37 -0500
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On 7/3/2024 6:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 7/3/24 10:19 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 7/3/2024 9:11 AM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Tue, 02 Jul 2024 22:55:12 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 7/2/2024 10:50 PM, joes wrote:
>>>>> Am Tue, 02 Jul 2024 14:46:38 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 2:17 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 21:00 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 1:42 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 14:22 schreef olcott:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 3:22 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 03:25 schreef olcott:
>>>
>>>>>>> HHH repeats the process twice and aborts too soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by any HHH that can exist which calls this
>>>>>> emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process until aborted (which may be
>>>>>> never).
>>>>> Whatever HHH does, it does not run forever but aborts.
>>>>>
>>>> HHH halts on input DDD.
>>>> DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly halt.
>>> WTF? It only calls HHH, which you just said halts.
>>>
>>
>> An aborted simulation does not count as halting.
> 
> And doesn't show non-halting either.
> 
>> Reaching it own machine address 00002183 counts as halting.
>> DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly do that.
> 
> But HHH doesn't DO a "Correct Simulation" that can show that, it only 
> does a PARTIAL simulation.
> 

<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
     If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
     until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
     stop running unless aborted then

     H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
     specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>

until H correctly determines
until H correctly determines
until H correctly determines
until H correctly determines
until H correctly determines
until H correctly determines
until H correctly determines

THUS STIPULATING THAT A PARTIAL SIMULATION IS CORRECT
THUS STIPULATING THAT A PARTIAL SIMULATION IS CORRECT
THUS STIPULATING THAT A PARTIAL SIMULATION IS CORRECT
THUS STIPULATING THAT A PARTIAL SIMULATION IS CORRECT
THUS STIPULATING THAT A PARTIAL SIMULATION IS CORRECT
THUS STIPULATING THAT A PARTIAL SIMULATION IS CORRECT
THUS STIPULATING THAT A PARTIAL SIMULATION IS CORRECT


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