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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Richard seems to continue to blatantly lie -- I hope I am wrong about this Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 20:30:02 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 69 Message-ID: <v64tur$2emil$1@dont-email.me> References: <v644pn$29t4h$3@dont-email.me> <5e6e8072022c865ced4b1a1de23b786bc05c22ce@i2pn2.org> <v64qr3$2e7d4$1@dont-email.me> <0354c808b6aa23146776ec5ad6eed3b66cab2713@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 03:30:03 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8ec8ab09a9c087279b96ae2505557d8c"; logging-data="2579029"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/3WFVjngn07tsMOV4a43AD" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:p9IvybWXCORhXl+qyzNPpaM1l4g= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <0354c808b6aa23146776ec5ad6eed3b66cab2713@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 3960 On 7/3/2024 8:12 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/3/24 8:36 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/3/2024 6:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 7/3/24 2:20 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> _DDD() >>>> [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping >>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD >>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) >>>> [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 >>>> [00002182] 5d pop ebp >>>> [00002183] c3 ret >>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] >>>> >>>> DDD correctly emulated by any element of the infinite >>>> set of every pure function HHH cannot possibly reach >>>> its own ret instruction and halt. That HHH aborts its >>>> emulation at some point or never aborts its emulation >>>> cannot possibly change this. >>>> >>> >>> No, you are just showing your ignorance. >>> >>> It is IMPOSSIBLE to "Correctly Emulate" this input per the semantics >>> of the x86 instruction set as given, as it referncee undefined memory. >>> >> >> I already stipulated that the memory IS DEFINED with an >> x86 emulator. Also you have seen that I have proven this. >> https://liarparadox.org/HHH(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf >> > > And if you assume that stipulation for the emulation, then you are > stipulating that the contents of ALL THE MEMORY is "part of the input". > > Also, by stipulating that it is a x86 emulator, do you mean an actually > complete emulator that fully emulates the input, <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted then H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> Liar. *It is forbidden from fully emulating non-halting inputs* Liar. *It is forbidden from fully emulating non-halting inputs* Liar. *It is forbidden from fully emulating non-halting inputs* until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer