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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,uk.d-i-y Subject: Re: OT: EV Charging Stations Stripped of Copper Cables Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 11:10:41 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 29 Message-ID: <v65vvh$2o5s9$1@dont-email.me> References: <v64kvk$2cc3j$2@dont-email.me> <v65m9e$2mc0i$1@dont-email.me> <len6voFfsavU2@mid.individual.net> <v65rnf$2najh$3@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=fixed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 13:10:41 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="97b7107f29a70cfa953205aeb02eb229"; logging-data="2889609"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18eDASj9tzi4hSvkiEmd8ad" User-Agent: Usenapp for MacOS Cancel-Lock: sha1:ciA3OhO12dTHu2cCAiqhxvhTog4= X-Face: vQnbv9.hE?8i]$Ze]OcTpb,obA[3MtUngaZO(ISFlziUk#Sqro&Lzf|1w5j@Wx_[Ju319$< Ka>(F68r$z?yD[m[!^RH/FdWU9.@APw!U9~XbK^jVZPS5Q|A`\oD`O7W/1N{DHKvYsvcMNH009wq\k Aha&{ID11Ks^}4KwoJ# X-Usenapp: v1.27.4/l - Full License Bytes: 2163 On 4 Jul 2024 at 10:58:07 BST, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > On 04/07/2024 10:06, alan_m wrote: >> Another half truth by the industry. It's only cheaper when it works and >> if you ignore the backup required for when it doesn't and the extra >> infrastructure costs required to distribute it. > > It isn't even cheaper then. > Some of us have run the numbers... > Care to share ;-) > Per gigawatt a wind turbine is cheaper than a nuclear power station but > that ignores > - the shorter lifetime of the windmill > - the capacity factor of the windmill > - the massive maintenance cost associated with a windmill. > I find it hard to believe that the revenue costs (per unit of electricity) of a wind turbine exceeds those of nuclear. > Before you even get into the ancillary crap needed to attempt to make a > silk purse out of a pigs ear... -- Cheers, Rob, Sheffield UK