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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Olcott seems to be
 willfully ignorant
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 07:37:19 -0500
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On 7/4/2024 1:15 AM, Mikko wrote:
> On 2024-07-03 13:27:40 +0000, olcott said:
> 
>> On 7/3/2024 6:44 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 7/2/24 11:43 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 7/2/2024 10:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 7/2/24 11:07 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 9:35 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 10:03 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 8:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 9:32 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 8:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 9:18 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Sipser probably does understand the x86 language.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shared-memory implementation of the Karp-Sipser
>>>>>>>>>>>> kernelization process
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://inria.hal.science/hal-03404798/file/hipc2021.pdf
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And the x86 language says the same thing,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> YOU are just a liar, as proved by the fact that you can not 
>>>>>>>>>>> give the Diagonalization proof you claimed you had.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, you are just too stupid to understand.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You continue to assume that you can simply disagree
>>>>>>>>>> with the x86 language. My memory was refreshed that
>>>>>>>>>> called you stupid would be a sin according to Christ.
>>>>>>>>>> I really want to do the best I can to repent.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But I am NOT disagreeing with the x86 language.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you point out what fact of it I am disagreing about it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You keep trying to get away with saying that the simulation is
>>>>>>>> incorrect when the semantics of the x86 language conclusively
>>>>>>>> proves that it is correct.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope, and x86n emulation is only fully correct if it continues to 
>>>>>>> the final end.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> void Infinite_Loop()
>>>>>> {
>>>>>>    HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>> }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why do you say such ridiculously stupid things that you are are 
>>>>>> false?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> And the only CORRECT EMULATION of that program is to infiniately 
>>>>> loop in the emulation.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not for a freaking termination analyzer nitwit.
>>>
>>> Why do they get to lie?
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Nothing says that you can't make a halt decider work with partial 
>>>>> emulation for SOME inputs. But the halt Decider just isn't itself a 
>>>>> fully correct emulator.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You keep stupidly saying that less than an infinite emulation is an 
>>>> incorrect emulation. Why do you keep stupidly doing that?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Because it is. Partial emulations only show partial truth, and truth 
>>> is the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
>>>
>>> BEHAVIOR needs the FULL description of what happens.
>>>
>>
>> Why do you keep lying about this?
>> As soon as HHH has seen a repeating state it has seen enough.
> 
> No, it has not. When it sees a repeating state first time there is no way
> to know that it is a repeating state. 
You are incompetent

> That can be determined only when
> the same state is seen again and then only if the state as seen the first
> time is still fully remembered or reconstructed.
> 
> You have not proven that every detail of the state is inculded in 
> determination.
> 

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Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer