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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 07:45:13 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 38 Message-ID: <v665gp$2oun1$6@dont-email.me> References: <v5vkun$1b0k9$1@dont-email.me> <v60dci$1ib5p$1@dont-email.me> <v60red$1kr1q$2@dont-email.me> <v61hn7$1oec9$1@dont-email.me> <v61ipa$1og2o$2@dont-email.me> <v61jod$1oec9$2@dont-email.me> <v61leu$1p1uo$1@dont-email.me> <dd109397687b2f8e74c3e1e3d826772db8b65e40@i2pn2.org> <v62i31$21b7a$1@dont-email.me> <d593179ccad2eef1e84ab6eeddb0f255b2b386e5@i2pn2.org> <v63ml8$27f1a$2@dont-email.me> <3d31bad7c6aa7d2332d9e9d470e4a4de21d4d567@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 14:45:14 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8ec8ab09a9c087279b96ae2505557d8c"; logging-data="2915041"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19o7OxYijAXTxwHtmBBaA01" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:SX+ED1CijCc98gKo+HOZQyGQxOY= In-Reply-To: <3d31bad7c6aa7d2332d9e9d470e4a4de21d4d567@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 3015 On 7/4/2024 5:13 AM, joes wrote: > Am Wed, 03 Jul 2024 09:19:20 -0500 schrieb olcott: >> On 7/3/2024 9:11 AM, joes wrote: >>> Am Tue, 02 Jul 2024 22:55:12 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>> On 7/2/2024 10:50 PM, joes wrote: >>>>> Am Tue, 02 Jul 2024 14:46:38 -0500 schrieb olcott: >>>>>> On 7/2/2024 2:17 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 21:00 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 1:42 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 14:22 schreef olcott: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 3:22 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Op 02.jul.2024 om 03:25 schreef olcott: >>> >>>>>>> HHH repeats the process twice and aborts too soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> DDD is correctly emulated by any HHH that can exist which calls this >>>>>> emulated HHH(DDD) to repeat the process until aborted (which may be >>>>>> never). >>>>> Whatever HHH does, it does not run forever but aborts. >>>>> >>>> HHH halts on input DDD. >>>> DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly halt. >>> WTF? It only calls HHH, which you just said halts. >>> >> An aborted simulation does not count as halting. >> Reaching it own machine address 00002183 counts as halting. >> DDD correctly simulated by HHH cannot possibly do that. > Yes, DDD does not halt. But HHH aborts simulating it. > Finally someone that is not a liar. HHH is required to abort the simulation of any and all sequences that would never otherwise stop running. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer