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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Python <python@invalid.org> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Langevin's paradox again Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 17:27:39 +0200 Organization: CCCP Lines: 79 Message-ID: <v66f1c$2qd2s$2@dont-email.me> References: <FER4K03RCuXsBiIlfVNSgR0vilQ@jntp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 17:27:43 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="296b2ac96a123783d826a4b3e4034cfe"; logging-data="2962524"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/6D3c04IOVfxnGLMGrxGAN" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:szBb0RCU9qhZW47k8Nc8JJA2URc= In-Reply-To: <FER4K03RCuXsBiIlfVNSgR0vilQ@jntp> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4591 Le 04/07/2024 à 15:30, Richard Hachel a écrit : > Langevin's paradox. > The Langevin paradox is a very serious criticism against the theory of > relativity. Unfortunately, the canonization and divinization of Albert > Einstein as the new son of God on earth (it was excessive in both > substance and form) completely obscured the problem, and we only saw > dozens high-level theorists were right against him, and that their > grievances were audible. > > What was the grievance? > > If the twin of the stars returns younger in the frame of reference of > the twin who remained on earth, then the twin who remained on earth, if > we apply the reciprocity of effects, and Doctor Richard Hachel says that > we must use this notion of reciprocity, very basis of logic, comes back > older than the other. Which is both logical and absurd. > > No one has ever been able to answer the question correctly and perfectly > (except Hachel), and if we look closely at the forums, articles, > websites, books, publications, for 120 years, not everyone has There's > nothing wrong with it, and everyone says anything to try to get back on > their feet. > > Only Doctor Hachel (what a man!) gave the perfect explanation, as on > other points of the SR, because he uses appropriate and consistent > relativistic geometry, and he KNOWS how to explain things clearly. > > The great problem facing the world's physicists is a problem of > confusion. They confuse two notions: the notion of relativity of > measured times, and the notion of reciprocal relativity of chronotropies. > > It's not the same thing. > > Hence the impossibility for them all to explain things coherently. > > The relativity of the measured times will show that over a journey of 24 > light years, carried out at v=0.8c, Terrence will age by 30 years. > It's very simple: x=v.t, i.e. t=x/v and 24*0.8=30 > But when Stella returns, she will only be 18 years old. > > There is therefore an asymmetry, that is obvious, but it is on the > explanation of the asymmetry that everyone sinks into complete ignorance. > > Because we are confusing it with the notion of chronotropy, which is > ANOTHER THING, and which can be defined by the internal functioning of > watches. On this, yes, the effect is symmetrical, reciprocal; each > watch, and throughout the entire journey, (including if I place a small > half-turn phase on a semi-circle with a preserved tangential speed of > 0.8c), beats faster than the other watch, and the equation is constant > and reciprocal over the entire path: T2=T1/sqrt(1-v²/c²). > > This is true. > > But this only qualifies chronotropy, that is to say the internal > mechanism of watches, it is not the whole of the relativistic effect. > > This is not what we will ultimately measure. > > I can't explain it more clearly. > > Now, if you are curious, and truly in love with science, you try to > understand what I am saying, without spitting, without mocking, and you > refer to the little diagrams posted years ago already, which explain the > things as we have never done before, notably with the logical notion of > the elasticity of relativistic distances. > > All of perfect theoretical and experimental beauty. > > “I have told you all these things, so that when the time comes, you will > remember that I said them.” > > Jesus Christ knew that no one would believe him, and that Minerva's owl > would not take flight until nightfall. > > R.H. Same bullshit you've posted for decades. You are ill, Lengrand.