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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,uk.d-i-y Subject: Re: OT: EV Charging Stations Stripped of Copper Cables Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 16:44:24 +0100 Organization: A little, after lunch Lines: 44 Message-ID: <v66g0o$2qjgg$3@dont-email.me> References: <v64kvk$2cc3j$2@dont-email.me> <v65m9e$2mc0i$1@dont-email.me> <len6voFfsavU2@mid.individual.net> <v65rnf$2najh$3@dont-email.me> <v65vvh$2o5s9$1@dont-email.me> <938d8jdf9k7gstu5q4rjemrrrvr5crgtgv@4ax.com> <v66br9$2pp4m$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2024 17:44:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="dc51d958de16694e953d6628ba38a631"; logging-data="2969104"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+QOm7iuckjzj1i09kjbfZAXy393qI2LtE=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:pU5IZPLTJNwr0/aTN8rbxhCmSHM= In-Reply-To: <v66br9$2pp4m$2@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2636 On 04/07/2024 15:33, Bill Sloman wrote: > On 4/07/2024 11:16 pm, john larkin wrote: >> On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 11:10:41 -0000 (UTC), RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 4 Jul 2024 at 10:58:07 BST, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >>> >>>> On 04/07/2024 10:06, alan_m wrote: >>>>> Another half truth by the industry. It's only cheaper when it works >>>>> and >>>>> if you ignore the backup required for when it doesn't and the extra >>>>> infrastructure costs required to distribute it. >>>> >>>> It isn't even cheaper then. >>>> Some of us have run the numbers... >>>> >>> >>> Care to share ;-) >>> >>>> Per gigawatt a wind turbine is cheaper than a nuclear power station but >>>> that ignores >>>> - the shorter lifetime of the windmill >>>> - the capacity factor of the windmill >>>> - the massive maintenance cost associated with a windmill. >>>> >>> >>> I find it hard to believe that the revenue costs (per unit of >>> electricity) of >>> a wind turbine exceeds those of nuclear. >> >> What do you mean by "unit of electricity" ? > > Kilowatt.hours and MegaWatt.hours seem to be popular. Alan m doesn't > seem to be all that technical. > THE Unit is defined as a KWh. but being an asshole, you wouldn't know that -- "If you don’t read the news paper, you are un-informed. If you read the news paper, you are mis-informed." Mark Twain