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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Ben fails to understand
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 11:06:56 -0500
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On 7/4/2024 11:05 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 7/4/24 11:40 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 7/4/2024 10:14 AM, joes wrote:
>>> Am Thu, 04 Jul 2024 09:25:29 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>> On 10/14/2022 7:44 PM, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>>>> Python <python@invalid.org> writes:
>>>>>>     [comment: as D halts, the simulation is faulty, Pr. Sipser has 
>>>>>> been
>>>>>>      fooled by Olcott shell game confusion "pretending to 
>>>>>> simulate" and
>>>>>>      "correctly simulate"]
>>>>> I don't think that is the shell game.  PO really /has/ an H (it's
>>>>> trivial to do for this one case) that correctly determines that P(P)
>>>>> *would* never stop running *unless* aborted.  He knows and accepts 
>>>>> that
>>>>> P(P) actually does stop.  The wrong answer is justified by what would
>>>>> happen if H (and hence a different P) where not what they actually 
>>>>> are.
>>> You seem to like this quote. Do you agree with it?
>>>
>>
>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>>      If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D
>>      until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never
>>      stop running unless aborted then
>>
>>      H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
>>      specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
>> </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>>
>> The first half of the quote agrees that the Sisper approved
>> criteria has been met, thus unless professor Sipser is wrong
>> H is correct to reject D as non-halting.
>>
> 
> Nope. Since you LIE about what Professor Sipser means by the first part, 
> you are shown to be just a stupid liar.
> 

Ben agreed that the first part has been met therefore
the second part <is> entailed.

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