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From: "Fred. Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@HetNet.nl>
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Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? Liar ??? Maybe...
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 21:32:06 +0200
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Op 04.jul.2024 om 14:43 schreef olcott:
> On 7/4/2024 2:52 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>> Op 04.jul.2024 om 05:21 schreef olcott:
>>> On 7/3/2024 10:05 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 7/3/24 10:41 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 7/3/2024 9:34 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/3/24 10:05 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are not paying close enough attention to the exact words
>>>>>>> that I am saying. DDD cannot possibly reach past its own
>>>>>>> machine address 0000217a no matter what the Hell that HHH does.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OF course it can. HHH might not be able to simulate it getting there, 
>>>>>
>>>>> Because the machine instructions provided to HHH specify that
>>>>> it is not possible to go there. HHH uses an x86 emulator with
>>>>> two decades of development effort.
>>>>
>>>> No, the exact same instructions that HHH used when called by main 
>>>> are in the presentation to HHH by DDD, 
>>>
>>> That is false and you are too indoctrinated to notice verified facts.
>>>
>>> HHH1 and directly executed DDD(DDD) benefit from
>>> HHH(DDD) having already aborted its simulation.
>>> HHH cannot possibly reap this same benefit.
>>
>> Exactly! Well done! This proves that HHH cannot possibly correctly 
>> simulate itself. Because it aborts too soon.
>>
> 
> Liar

Ad hominem attack as an attempt to hide that you ran out of arguments.
You could not point to any error in the reasoning.
It is a pity for you that your contributions only confirm my case.

> 
>>>
>>> Maybe I need to repeat this in every reply.
>>>
>>
>> Yes and remember that, therefore, HHH cannot possibly correctly 
>> simulate itself.
>