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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> Newsgroups: sci.lang,alt.usage.english Subject: Re: Japs can't pronounce L's (the Japanese convert L's into R's) Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 11:19:57 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 26 Message-ID: <v67hnt$2vu65$1@dont-email.me> References: <v5nucb$3nsv3$2@dont-email.me> <v5qmcp$bs16$1@dont-email.me> <668122f4$0$11428$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <fa784d4190b05fff0f772e1b460397ad@www.novabbs.com> <6687060b$0$7520$426a74cc@news.free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 03:19:58 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="4748f228c4a6a52987c917f7f8768b88"; logging-data="3143877"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/esbDdlEEnfjYfm+FesWGT" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; Warp 4.5; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:ctJ2fNHgjZ8As3H5B71tE47ZxnA= In-Reply-To: <6687060b$0$7520$426a74cc@news.free.fr> Bytes: 2190 On 05/07/24 06:28, J. J. Lodder wrote: > bertietaylor <bertietaylor@novabbs.com.invalid> wrote: > > [on the Dutch] >> Amazing lot, going to the ends of the Earth to grab whatever they could. >> Active! > > As far as Nagasaki, anyway. > The Dutch didn't grab anything there, they traded. > They were succesful in that, precisely because > they did not try to grab anything. > (that's what the Spanish and the Portugese were kicked out for) That was part of the reason. Another important part was that the Spanish and Portuguese tried to convert people to Christianity. One bit of information that the Dutch brought to Japan was the fact that there was more than one Christian religion, and that the Christians did not agree amongst themselves on religious questions. (In the long term, the accumulation of more and more religions is a path to atheism.) -- Peter Moylan peter@pmoylan.org http://www.pmoylan.org Newcastle, NSW