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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Flat out dishonest or totally ignorant? --- Olcott seems to be willfully ignorant Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 10:16:16 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 96 Message-ID: <v686k0$36jd2$1@dont-email.me> References: <v5vkun$1b0k9$1@dont-email.me> <v60dci$1ib5p$1@dont-email.me> <v60red$1kr1q$2@dont-email.me> <v61hn7$1oec9$1@dont-email.me> <v61ipa$1og2o$2@dont-email.me> <v61jod$1oec9$2@dont-email.me> <v61leu$1p1uo$1@dont-email.me> <7b6a00827bfcc84e99e19a0d0ae6028ebcdc263c@i2pn2.org> <v620vu$1qutj$2@dont-email.me> <f6e8f5de9a1e61c7970a92145ce8c1f9087ba431@i2pn2.org> <v628ts$1s632$1@dont-email.me> <178edf6a7c5329df35a9af6852ecbd41c0948ea1@i2pn2.org> <v629mp$1s632$3@dont-email.me> <168858894febbaa529d1704ea864bbe15cb8f635@i2pn2.org> <v62bgv$1s632$6@dont-email.me> <211a07c98d1fc183ed3e6c079ec1e883dd45f1cc@i2pn2.org> <v62f92$20moo$3@dont-email.me> <623debd817e63a256100bb15fed3af8d4fb969fe@i2pn2.org> <v62hc7$20moo$6@dont-email.me> <e3c734b6a1ce3386210f7700bf03d183334d4d55@i2pn2.org> <v63jkc$26loi$7@dont-email.me> <v65emv$2l5il$1@dont-email.me> <v6651v$2oun1$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 09:16:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="70c8d6b77d1510d9355906f09ac241dc"; logging-data="3362210"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18hCGu5HedHN2otLQZu2EBY" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:2yaSaMEd7fcGdrHqgSM4JG5zmVw= Bytes: 5299 On 2024-07-04 12:37:19 +0000, olcott said: > On 7/4/2024 1:15 AM, Mikko wrote: >> On 2024-07-03 13:27:40 +0000, olcott said: >> >>> On 7/3/2024 6:44 AM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 7/2/24 11:43 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> On 7/2/2024 10:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>> On 7/2/24 11:07 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 9:35 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 10:03 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 8:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 9:32 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/2024 8:25 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/2/24 9:18 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Professor Sipser probably does understand the x86 language. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Shared-memory implementation of the Karp-Sipser >>>>>>>>>>>>> kernelization process >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://inria.hal.science/hal-03404798/file/hipc2021.pdf >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And the x86 language says the same thing, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> YOU are just a liar, as proved by the fact that you can not give the >>>>>>>>>>>> Diagonalization proof you claimed you had. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry, you are just too stupid to understand. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You continue to assume that you can simply disagree >>>>>>>>>>> with the x86 language. My memory was refreshed that >>>>>>>>>>> called you stupid would be a sin according to Christ. >>>>>>>>>>> I really want to do the best I can to repent. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But I am NOT disagreeing with the x86 language. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Can you point out what fact of it I am disagreing about it? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You keep trying to get away with saying that the simulation is >>>>>>>>> incorrect when the semantics of the x86 language conclusively >>>>>>>>> proves that it is correct. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nope, and x86n emulation is only fully correct if it continues to the >>>>>>>> final end. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> void Infinite_Loop() >>>>>>> { >>>>>>> HERE: goto HERE; >>>>>>> } >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why do you say such ridiculously stupid things that you are are false? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> And the only CORRECT EMULATION of that program is to infiniately loop >>>>>> in the emulation. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not for a freaking termination analyzer nitwit. >>>> >>>> Why do they get to lie? >>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Nothing says that you can't make a halt decider work with partial >>>>>> emulation for SOME inputs. But the halt Decider just isn't itself a >>>>>> fully correct emulator. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You keep stupidly saying that less than an infinite emulation is an >>>>> incorrect emulation. Why do you keep stupidly doing that? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Because it is. Partial emulations only show partial truth, and truth is >>>> the whole truth and nothing but the truth. >>>> >>>> BEHAVIOR needs the FULL description of what happens. >>>> >>> >>> Why do you keep lying about this? >>> As soon as HHH has seen a repeating state it has seen enough. >> >> No, it has not. When it sees a repeating state first time there is no way >> to know that it is a repeating state. > You are incompetent I'm not competing nor planning to compete if that is what you mean. If you mean that I can't compete that is ulikely to be tested. I have competed and won but that was long ago. Anyway, as you have no counter argument my comment stands as written. -- Mikko