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On 05/07/2024 10:38, Martin Brown wrote:
> On 04/07/2024 17:18, Jethro_uk wrote:
>> On Thu, 04 Jul 2024 14:11:54 +0000, Smolley wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 04 Jul 2024 21:55:59 +1000, Bill Sloman wrote:
> 
>>>> More unsubstantiated ignorant assertions. You seem to have adopted
>>>> Donald Trump's debating style of inventing your "facts" as you go
>>>> along.
>>>
>>> Technology will arrive where the nuclear waste can be transported to the
>>> sun.
> 
> Using flying pigs might be an option but rockets are far too unreliable.
>>
>> Before that I would look into dropping it into a ****ing big active
>> volcano. Although I suspect there are probably some good reasons I am
>> unaware of why it's not done now.
> 
> The main one being that volcanoes are spewing stuff *out* with a fair 
> amount of it as fine dust particles. That is exactly what you *don't* 
> want your nasty radioactive waste to be turned into.
> 
> If you were crazy enough putting it into a subduction zone well away 
> from any active volcanoes would be a better bet.
> 
Well volcanies are how most of the Uranium and thorium got to where it 
is today.
`
> There are (expensive) glassification processes that can render it more 
> or less inert for long term storage underground. Snag is the best places 
> to put it geologically in the UK are not the same as the places where it 
> will most likely be dumped (under Sellafield, formerly Winscale formerly 
> Calder Hall - cunningly renamed after each mammoth cockup/MFU).
> 
They could build a pyramid and stuff it in that., It would be safe.

> We in the UK should give thanks to Cockcroft's follies. We were damn 
> lucky that his somewhat wacky stack filter idea prevented massive 
> fallout when the carbon moderator caught fire back in 1957. Radioactive 
> discharge would have been ~20x worse without them.
> 
Not even as bad as chernobyl, which was the same without the filters and 
100 times bigger

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windscale_fire
> 
> You have to wait for quite a while (years) after spent fuel comes out of 
> the reactor before it is safe enough to work with. The stuff has to sit 
> in cooling ponds for a while so that the neutron rich fission product 
> isotopes have time to decay to something less radioactive.
> 

Yup. And its perfectly safe there, as well.


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Of what good are dead warriors? … Warriors are those who desire battle 
more than peace. Those who seek battle despite peace. Those who thump 
their spears on the ground and talk of honor. Those who leap high the 
battle dance and dream of glory … The good of dead warriors, Mother, is 
that they are dead.
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