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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
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Subject: Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 13:15:21 -0700
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On 2024-07-05 13:02, badgolferman wrote:
> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-07-05 11:43, badgolferman wrote:
>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [snip typical nonsense]
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally I think they are so invested in the perfection of Apple that
>>>>> they cannot bear the thought of there being flaws in its products. If
>>>>> someone exposes such flaws, it invalidates everything they stand for.
>>>>
>>>> The other side of the coin is that some people are so eager to find flaws
>>>> in Apple they forget to check basic facts. Like is this even anything
>>>> within Apple's control? Hint: nope.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> If Apple software is dependent upon someone else’s software, it’s Apple’s
>>> responsibility to ensure that software is safe. After all, it’s Apple who
>>> tells us they are focused on safety and security.
>>>
>>
>> Which you'll argue while at the same time arguing that Apple is wrong to
>> do what it can to increase safety and security by using an app store.
>>
> 
> I have no problem with the App Store. But I do think the option to use
> other stores should exist, with all warnings and check marks required for
> you to advance. Apple shouldn’t be responsible for software they have not
> vetted and if the customer still wants it then they are culpable if
> something goes wrong.

So now you say that Apple shouldn't be responsible.

Make up your mind, huh?

> 
> But this is a different situation. Apple used someone else’s software and
> didn’t correctly vet that. It perpetuated itself deeper and has caused
> security problems now. That’s on Apple.
> 

CocoaPods is a dependency manager; a software tool you use to create 
software. It manages the dependencies you're using. It isn't software 
that itself winds up IN your software.

So how could Apple reasonably check if some third-party software was 
built using it?