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From: badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are?
Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:34:48 -0000 (UTC)
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Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2024-07-05 13:02, badgolferman wrote:
>> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2024-07-05 11:43, badgolferman wrote:
>>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> [snip typical nonsense]
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Personally I think they are so invested in the perfection of Apple that
>>>>>> they cannot bear the thought of there being flaws in its products. If
>>>>>> someone exposes such flaws, it invalidates everything they stand for.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The other side of the coin is that some people are so eager to find flaws
>>>>> in Apple they forget to check basic facts. Like is this even anything
>>>>> within Apple's control? Hint: nope.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> If Apple software is dependent upon someone else’s software, it’s Apple’s
>>>> responsibility to ensure that software is safe. After all, it’s Apple who
>>>> tells us they are focused on safety and security.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Which you'll argue while at the same time arguing that Apple is wrong to
>>> do what it can to increase safety and security by using an app store.
>>> 
>> 
>> I have no problem with the App Store. But I do think the option to use
>> other stores should exist, with all warnings and check marks required for
>> you to advance. Apple shouldn’t be responsible for software they have not
>> vetted and if the customer still wants it then they are culpable if
>> something goes wrong.
> 
> So now you say that Apple shouldn't be responsible.
> 
> Make up your mind, huh?
> 
>> 
>> But this is a different situation. Apple used someone else’s software and
>> didn’t correctly vet that. It perpetuated itself deeper and has caused
>> security problems now. That’s on Apple.
>> 
> 
> CocoaPods is a dependency manager; a software tool you use to create 
> software. It manages the dependencies you're using. It isn't software 
> that itself winds up IN your software.
> 
> So how could Apple reasonably check if some third-party software was 
> built using it?
> 

Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought this problem also affected the Apple
software engineers. 

In any case, I’m sure it’s virtually impossible to keep track of everything
but a company that touts its safety and security presence must do more.
Look at LastPass, they’ve become a joke.