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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Ross Clark <benlizro@ihug.co.nz> Newsgroups: sci.lang Subject: Re: "a Pair of Panties" ????? Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:06:16 +1200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 16 Message-ID: <v69n8j$3eij8$1@dont-email.me> References: <v5t8mv$tk1f$1@dont-email.me> <v5tgf1$ukmm$1@dont-email.me> <v66kl9$2rfe4$1@dont-email.me> <v67ha5$2vt1l$1@dont-email.me> <v69d5j$3cvt4$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: r.clark@auckland.ac.nz MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2024 23:06:27 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="8c2071ea0c707303df2523974c8f6291"; logging-data="3623528"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/R0PVd6onRRvN1FFFc5kSu0Di93vRNxzQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 Cancel-Lock: sha1:JOhdkRQP3C4C5sitopFm4oZkymU= In-Reply-To: <v69d5j$3cvt4$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 1920 On 6/07/2024 6:14 a.m., Antonio Marques wrote: > Peter Moylan <peter@pmoylan.org> wrote: >> >> But of course none of this explains why those objects are singular in >> some languages and plural in others. >> > > Or country. In Brazil, inexplicably, they refer to seeing glasses with the > plural noun and a singular article, e.g. _um óculos_ which sounds like 'a > glasses' (note that things like your/the are inflected for number even in > Brazil, so the weirdness is more conspicuous than this). > "A scissors" is quite common in English. OED has citations as recent as 2001, but notes that the usage was declared "erroneous" in the 1910 fascicle where this word appeared.