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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 09:33:14 +0300
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On 2024-07-05 12:43:45 +0000, olcott said:

> On 7/5/2024 7:26 AM, joes wrote:
>> Am Fri, 05 Jul 2024 07:20:04 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>> On 7/5/2024 4:49 AM, joes wrote:
>>>> Am Wed, 03 Jul 2024 13:57:40 -0500 schrieb olcott:
>>>>> On 7/3/2024 1:40 PM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
>>>>>> Op 03.jul.2024 om 20:20 schreef olcott:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> DDD correctly emulated by any element of the infinite set of every
>>>>>>> pure function HHH cannot possibly reach its own ret instruction and
>>>>>>> halt. That HHH aborts its emulation at some point or never aborts
>>>>>>> its emulation cannot possibly change this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ad hominem attacks always try to hide a lack of argumentation.
>>>>>> It has been proved that HHH cannot possibly correctly simulate
>>>>>> itself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That is false and you know it. That might not be a flat out lie as it
>>>>> is an sloppy use of language.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HHH does correctly simulate itself simulating DDD one time, then it
>>>>> stops correctly simulating itself because this criteria is met:
>>>>> HHH correctly simulates its input DDD until HHH correctly
>>>>> determines that its simulated DDD would never stop running
>>>>> unless aborted
>>>> But it would stop running.
>>> Not if not aborted.
>> But it is aborted!
>> 
> 
> *It is not aborted when HHH makes its decision to abort*

If it will be aborted in future it will not run forever.

-- 
Mikko