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On 05/07/2024 10:33, Blueshirt wrote:
> The True Doctor wrote:
> 
>> On 05/07/2024 08:49, Blueshirt wrote:
>>> The True Doctor wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 04/07/2024 15:09, The Last Doctor wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> https://www.blogtorwho.com/doctor-who-uk-cinema-box-office-data/?amp=1
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like somewhere between 25,000 and 45,000 people
>>>>> (depending on what the ticket price was) thought it was a
>>>>> good idea to turn up to the cinema late on a Friday
>>>>> night to rewatch “The Legend of Ruby Sunday” on the big
>>>>> screen and follow it with the premiere of “Empire of
>>>>> Death” at midnight (simultaneously with its worldwide
>>>>> streaming drop).
>>>>>
>>>>> And before Aggie tries to turn that into “10 paying
>>>>> customers and 40,000 freebie giveaways that no one
>>>>> bothered to use” , that estimate is based on cash
>>>>> takings. The double bill was the fourth biggest cinema
>>>>> draw of the
>>>>
>>>> Stop deluding yourself and deceiving people reading. The
>>>> BBC paid the cinemas for every one of those tickets when
>>>> it booked the theatres for the showings and then tried to
>>>> give them all away for free. Even if no one attended a
>>>> single performance it still would have counted as 40,000
>>>> people watching. That's how the BBC, Disney, and all the
>>>> major studios fiddle their cinema audience figures. What
>>>> do you think the $200,000,000 publicity budget for a movie
>>>> costing $200 million to make is spent on?  I've never seen
>>>> a single poster in town for any of them or a single
>>>> trailer on TV.
>>>>
>>>> The record companies do exactly the same thing to fiddle
>>>> the charts by paying Spotify and other streamers and radio
>>>> stations to insert the artists they want to be number 1
>>>> for a particular week into everyone's playlists, even if
>>>> the people forced to listen can't stand the artist. All it
>>>> takes is 10 seconds to count as a play.
>>>>
>>>> Provide photographic evidence that all the seats were
>>>> filled with real people.
>>>
>>> <face palm>
>>>
>>> You are being a bit silly now...
>>>
>>> Why would the BBC pay cinemas for thousands of tickets just
>>> to give them all away when they broadcast the exact same
>>> episodes on BBC1 and it's available on their iPlayer. That
>>> doesn't make any sense!
>>
>> It was a failed publicity stunt. The BBC expected huge numbers
>> to take the tickets off it but no one did. The seats were
>> empty and the BBC has not pictures to show for it. Nothing.
> 
> Have you any evidence for this claim?
> 

I am not the one making the claim. The BBC is. It is therefore the BBC 
who is obliged to provide evidence, not me.

> I have not read anything that states this. Please tell me you
> didn't hear this from some random dude on YouTube?
>    

Where were these cinemas? Where are the ticket receipts? Where are the 
pictures of bums on seats? The BBC is making the claims. The BBC must 
provide the evidence.

It booked cinemas en mass to show the Doctor Whoke finale. The cinemas 
did not choose to show it all by themselves. They were made to show it. 
Allegedly, since the BBC has not even provided evidence of the names and 
locations of the Cinemas to even begin with. Booking a cinema to show a 
movie or show counts as a full auditorium even if it's completely empty. 
The BBC is simply making stuff up.

Why should anyone believe them when almost everything that RTD tells us 
is a lie? He's the boy that cried Bad Wolf too many times.

>>> So, people had cinema tickets to watch Doctor Who... but they
>>> didn't turn up to watch it?
>>
>> They may not have even bothered to apply for them.
> 
> I'm sure a good few did, as I have seen people on Doctor Who

I don't think so.

> forums say they were going. I will DM one or two of the ones I
 > know and see if they really did go, or was it all just a
 > publicity stunt!

How do you know those are real people and not BBC sock puppet accounts?

It's well known that advertising, media, and publicity agencies are 
behind most of these accounts. Ask Elon Musk and he will confirm it.

>   
>>> Just WTF are you on?!
>>
>> Common sense.
> 
> Common sense is fine if it is based on sound reasoning. But the
> BBC paying for thousands of cinema tickets for a TV show that
> people can watch on BBC1 anyway doesn't sound much like the BBC!

It sounds like New Lamps for Old, therefore it is an obvious scam. It's 
nothing more than a publicity stunt.

> It's not like they are rolling in cash to throw away on PR
> stunts like that.

They have my cash and everyone else's who is forced to pay the BBC 
licence fee.

> 
>>>>> weekend it ran in the U.K. - even though it was just a
>>>>> single showing in a limited number of cinemas in the
>>>>> dead of night.
>>>>>
>>>>> Speaking as a lifelong fan, no way I would have done that
>>>>> unless the tickets WERE free. And maybe not then, I’d
>>>>> probably fall asleep trying to watch something in
>>>>> darkness at midnight, at my age.
>>>>
>>>> There you go. What more proof does anyone need that the
>>>> statistics have all been fiddled by the BBC buying up
>>>> tickets en mass. Even if they were given away for free the
>>>> majority of fans would not have even bothered going just
>>>> like you didn't.  Who wants to sit though 2 hours of
>>>> boring badly written mind numbing rubbish.
>>>>
>>>>> So there’s a lot of love for the latest incarnation of
>>>>> the Doctor out there
>>>>
>>>> No there isn't. Gatwa's highest rating episode was the one
>>>> he wasn't even in.
>>>>
>>>>> somewhere - cos again, can that really be more than a
>>>>> couple % of the audience willing to go out and pay good
>>>>> money for something they could watch for free at home -
>>>>> at the same time?
>>>>
>>>> No one wents to watch it. The cinemas were all empty. If
>>>> people were there they would have posted photos of packed
>>>> theatres. Where are they?
>>>
>>> You really are a nut case aren't you?
>>
>> Provide photographic evidence that all of the cinemas were not
>> empty. Where is it?
> 
> I can't as I'm in Ireland so wasn't there! However, if I had

You can't because no one was there. It's nothing to do with Ireland.

> been in the UK I almost certainly would have gone... just for
> the experience of seeing Doctor Who on a big cinema screen.

But you didn't have a ticket so they wouldn't have let you in. You 
didn't even know where these cinemas were except "in the UK".

If you want to watch Doctor Whoke on a big screen then buy a 32 inch 
monitor with Dolby Atmos and sit 18 inches away from it. That's about 
the field of view you get with the fake IMAX most cinemas claim to 
possess. You see they're all lying. OK, maybe since the last series was 
filmed in 2:1 ratio as a con to get people to buy bigger TVs you might 
need to get a 65 inch screen instead. Either way it would still be 
cheaper than travelling to the UK and trying to find non-existent 
tickets to purchase. It doesn't need to be OLED.

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