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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Disc brake maintenance tips Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 07:48:12 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 69 Message-ID: <v6bats$3pal0$4@dont-email.me> References: <jop67jlu8s63qql60qtp40jlolatseh5bj@4ax.com> <g0v67jdkdq5ctvtdtqqdan0ca7hi1c5k3m@4ax.com> <v4vui4$27pbi$1@dont-email.me> <v5078h$2cvtr$2@dont-email.me> <MbhdO.3071$1Wt1.1263@fx02.iad> <psac7jt3581dbg85c1u155pi92frds2rr4@4ax.com> <ABygO.77350$FZWf.28971@fx35.iad> <v5uht6$14lct$1@dont-email.me> <1_AgO.310553$bHO6.249470@fx06.ams4> <P2XhO.12026$xA%e.5666@fx17.iad> <v69olb$3eo1p$1@dont-email.me> <v6a6hu$3ggeu$4@dont-email.me> <v6a6ll$3gt2t$1@dont-email.me> <gh0i8jpt79o373imuo8n7u9bd7bqil9jar@4ax.com> <EM9iO.28405$eAJ1.6643@fx03.ams4> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 13:48:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5f7611d7322c87690f04654cedc93bac"; logging-data="3975840"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18q3CMgPrIjNLXoKZ7RSPPWlVZN+CCv4yw=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:0X5/N0Qsw2TjjXehf5rrrXnNboY= In-Reply-To: <EM9iO.28405$eAJ1.6643@fx03.ams4> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4338 On 7/6/2024 7:21 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: > Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >> On Fri, 5 Jul 2024 20:29:27 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >> >>> On 7/5/2024 8:27 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>> On 7/5/2024 5:30 PM, AMuzi wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The Ancients managed to keep track of the complex gearing >>>>> on 2x4 speed machines, over poor or no pavement, all >>>>> through the classics (climbs, heat and cold, crashes and >>>>> punctures without assistance) with those primitive gear >>>>> levers. But then again they were real men. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.pinterest.com/pin/774337729666265860/ >>>> >>>> And there are still plenty of people doing that! >>>> https://eroica.cc/en >>>> >>>> (The Italians in this group may especially enjoy the >>>> embedded video.) >>>> >>>> About the bikes: "Eroica rides are organized exclusively for >>>> Bici Eroiche (Historical Bikes); road-racing bikes built in >>>> 1987 or earlier, both with and without gears. These bikes >>>> normally have a steel frame with shift levers on the down >>>> tube and brake cables that must pass outside and over the >>>> handlebars. Pedals should be with toe clips and straps; >>>> quick release or clipless pedals are not allowed." >>>> >>>> Tom would be terrified! ;-) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Sounds wonderful, much like my morning rides (without pesky >>> gear changers on my fixie). >> >> Riding a fixie is not conducive to my pedaling technique, but it seems >> to me that riding a multispeed freewheel/freehub bike without shifting >> is almost the same thing, only better because you don't have to plan >> your cornering so that you're not doing with your inside pedal down? >> > Not quite, with a single chainring/cog does make the bike lighter, and > simpler maintenance. A fixed gear is also significantly more efficient - fewer drivetrain losses that are exacerbated but poor biomechanics. A derailleur-tensioned chain on a freehub allows poor pedaling technique. The fixed-gear "hides" this as the 'return' from the forward motion of the bike keeps your legs moving in circles (rather than "pedaling squares"). As the speed and cadence increase, it trains you to be more efficient since bad pedaling technique limits your ability to spin. My favorite quip WRT to fixed gears is 'in any given gear, a fixed drivetrain is more efficient'. > > And folks do like the fixie ie no freewheel feeling, I missed the ability > to freewheel too much and being an old MTBer like to move on the bike so I > used a freewheel. > > Used to be very fashionable about 10 years ago back to seeing them now and > then. It's still pretty rare around here, but there is a small hardcore group that races here: https://nevelodrome.com/ > > Roger Merriman >