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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Disc brake maintenance tips Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 07:43:48 -0500 Organization: Yellow Jersey, Ltd. Lines: 61 Message-ID: <v6be64$3qc85$1@dont-email.me> References: <v62f7m$20usq$1@dont-email.me> <v63gjr$26ejj$1@dont-email.me> <p9gb8jlqtdjlkbke7jre0h59oskmunf66u@4ax.com> <v64th6$2ed0u$4@dont-email.me> <9irc8jlpse1s398uq5qd6jaudjar3jhfs8@4ax.com> <ss2f8j5j1ir52gjmeqbdvtj9c96r7g5ipv@4ax.com> <7d9f8jhl4vpb0n7p8bodavodbrob28rd8p@4ax.com> <q7mf8jd39j94gkjvpmdg5ubsb5mhph5ric@4ax.com> <0mnf8j1od86gq027k6bbas1ioeam2a6l6b@4ax.com> <v691hf$3aqcm$3@dont-email.me> <c3jg8jh2ilmnt81bbucki78fc44sjiciiq@4ax.com> <uf6h8jp8i6ogq9odo7o52eth5s3m1fe78v@4ax.com> <v6a6tk$3ggeu$6@dont-email.me> <v6a9mp$3l2np$1@dont-email.me> <v6aau3$3l7ug$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 14:43:48 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="71a75b6f3d714f08cfe7b822dd92bad1"; logging-data="4010245"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19p8aDUEPNEjJPUB1aplyGM" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:IUHWsgYISXnk/o7RhLAIgmt5D3o= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v6aau3$3l7ug$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 3700 On 7/5/2024 9:42 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: > On 7/5/2024 10:21 PM, AMuzi wrote: >> On 7/5/2024 8:33 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>> On 7/5/2024 9:23 PM, John B. wrote: >>>> I did a study of gun ownership versus >>>> gun homicides by states and I found the some states had >>>> high gun >>>> ownership had low gun homicides so I "dug into it" a bit >>>> further and >>>> what I found was that: >>>> >>>> 'IF' there is a gun in the home and 'IF' someone in the >>>> home decided >>>> to commit suicide or a crime they would likely use the >>>> firearm to do >>>> so. >>> >>> That's correct, as far as it goes. The pertinent fact is >>> people with guns in their home are much more likely to >>> die or be wounded by guns. It's especially true of women >>> whose husbands have guns. >>> >>> I can give citations yet again, if needed. Not that it >>> would do any good, of course. >>> >> >> While we probably agree that suicides of impulse are >> tragic, I maintain that most are deliberate and in many >> instances (I've known too many) the best result for all >> concerned. >> >> I will agree that a lack of weaponry may thwart some >> impulsive suicides. That won't stop the deliberate. > > Nothing is perfect. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of > the good. > We've previously discussed the idea of a near-total ban on personal firearms with a complex, expensive and restrictive permitting process, limited to one per person, single shot rimfire only. Mexico has exactly that regime in place and has for many long years. How's that working out in the real world? https://www.jurist.org/news/2024/06/mexico-mayor-elect-assassinated-amidst-surge-in-political-violence/ USA is 2.5x the population of Mexico with about 37,200 shot dead to Mexico's 15,400 for a slightly _higher_ incident rate than USA. https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/08/gun-deaths-firearms-americas-homicide/ Perhaps legislating about hardware is not the best solution. -- Andrew Muzi am@yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971