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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.advocacy Subject: Re: Is everyone as blissfully ignorant as the Apple zealots are? Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 08:41:56 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <v6bok4$3s4o1$4@dont-email.me> References: <v66duj$19j2$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <leo4v3Fkdk4U3@mid.individual.net> <v66v8d$1m0h$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <v672bj$6e7v$1@solani.org> <v69cnt$3cthk$1@dont-email.me> <v69esn$7sdm$1@solani.org> <v69ise$3dqr1$2@dont-email.me> <v69jgj$7utd$1@solani.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 06 Jul 2024 17:41:57 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="590758c6899fe1cdf12db9f10c0ecf7d"; logging-data="4068097"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/1thkws7VGYwsRzI2p9qUfZunykHmvsUA=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:CLgnD1GdyE3f90qbwinGiwtjpfU= In-Reply-To: <v69jgj$7utd$1@solani.org> Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 3087 On 2024-07-05 13:02, badgolferman wrote: > Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> On 2024-07-05 11:43, badgolferman wrote: >>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Andrew <andrew@spam.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> [snip typical nonsense] >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Personally I think they are so invested in the perfection of Apple that >>>>> they cannot bear the thought of there being flaws in its products. If >>>>> someone exposes such flaws, it invalidates everything they stand for. >>>> >>>> The other side of the coin is that some people are so eager to find flaws >>>> in Apple they forget to check basic facts. Like is this even anything >>>> within Apple's control? Hint: nope. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> If Apple software is dependent upon someone else’s software, it’s Apple’s >>> responsibility to ensure that software is safe. After all, it’s Apple who >>> tells us they are focused on safety and security. >>> >> >> Which you'll argue while at the same time arguing that Apple is wrong to >> do what it can to increase safety and security by using an app store. >> > > I have no problem with the App Store. But I do think the option to use > other stores should exist, with all warnings and check marks required for > you to advance. Apple shouldn’t be responsible for software they have not > vetted and if the customer still wants it then they are culpable if > something goes wrong. > > But this is a different situation. Apple used someone else’s software and > didn’t correctly vet that. It perpetuated itself deeper and has caused > security problems now. That’s on Apple. > Apple didn't "use someone else's software". Third parties used a tool to build their apps.