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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 17:20:23 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 27 Message-ID: <v6cfv7$13k$1@dont-email.me> References: <v644pn$29t4h$3@dont-email.me> <v66v8i$2n56v$4@dont-email.me> <v67028$2t9el$1@dont-email.me> <v68b3f$2n56v$5@dont-email.me> <v68ocd$39dkv$5@dont-email.me> <v68pfo$2n56v$7@dont-email.me> <v68rnv$39tml$2@dont-email.me> <v68tvd$3ac9t$1@dont-email.me> <v68uj0$3ahel$1@dont-email.me> <v694k4$3bevk$1@dont-email.me> <v69502$3bh3f$1@dont-email.me> <v6b1k4$3odj5$1@dont-email.me> <v6bf7r$3qiio$2@dont-email.me> <v6bm5v$3rj8n$1@dont-email.me> <v6bmoe$3ri0l$2@dont-email.me> <v6bnt2$3rj8n$3@dont-email.me> <v6brfj$3skuk$2@dont-email.me> <v6c3vh$3ttem$1@dont-email.me> <v6c539$3u2mj$1@dont-email.me> <64b6a48b13e3b0739d79df538dca3e8d52c86f43@i2pn2.org> <v6cbe2$3v83p$1@dont-email.me> <bb01a6bddbf7ee29eee73cdcd7ddd4d0732218c1@i2pn2.org> <v6cboo$3v83p$2@dont-email.me> <83dab358cd413bbb48dd3791890d1b526b019e40@i2pn2.org> <v6cdk5$3viun$1@dont-email.me> <c320c5c5458ccce375c8dc694316c1c031332095@i2pn2.org> <v6cehc$3viun$2@dont-email.me> <ba1adc0f48c6d2930356b072815d6e17d9ccc9ad@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 00:20:24 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9c29ee80738061e83f912864b4700212"; logging-data="1140"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19wnriHNpiThjC+jigWGtUa" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:p+fVivYacWW1igfutTkUa6ugDZ8= In-Reply-To: <ba1adc0f48c6d2930356b072815d6e17d9ccc9ad@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2914 On 7/6/2024 5:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/6/24 5:55 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/6/2024 4:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 7/6/24 5:40 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> >>>> That requires HHH to report on what itself does before it does this, >>>> thus exactly the same you you never needing to buy groceries once >>>> you decide that you will do this. >>>> >>> >>> Nope, because HHH is deterministic in behavior, >> >> It cannot report on the effect of what it did before it does this >> otherwise we are back to you never needing to buy groceries as >> soon as you decide to go buy them. >> > > It MUST report on what it DOES. Exactly. That means that it cannot report on the effect of something that it has not yet done. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer