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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Orphaned CodoPods are found in Apple software Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 16:49:22 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <v6cl62$qsv$1@dont-email.me> References: <v6brna$16iit$1@news.samoylyk.net> <rzeiO.8448$pVB9.6500@fx34.iad> <v6c85a$17bja$1@news.samoylyk.net> <v6c8sk$9fdv$1@solani.org> <letr8cFge14U2@mid.individual.net> <v6cjb6$9l4b$1@solani.org> <v6ckup$186t1$1@news.samoylyk.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 01:49:23 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="790cd3862da191afc565528a27af80b4"; logging-data="27551"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19W/zg0zs5XYS2j1KY2Zu6IUITZB8w1BBk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:lAi2nM3YVHj8x/zhgt/rO8UTy/o= In-Reply-To: <v6ckup$186t1$1@news.samoylyk.net> Content-Language: en-CA Bytes: 2783 On 2024-07-06 16:45, Wolf Greenblatt wrote: > On Sat, 6 Jul 2024 23:17:58 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote: > >>>> We're being told it's not Apple's job to find security holes in other >>>> peoples dependencies so it's not their fault. >>> >>> You are desperately trying to blame Apple, because: troll. >>> >> >> Didn't you just say this? >> >> "It's not Apple's job to police third-party package mangers." > > Isn't Swift touted to be "safe by design" on Apple own corporate web pages? CocoaPods isn't part of Swift. > > https://developer.apple.com/swift/ > > "Swift is a powerful and intuitive programming language for all Apple > platforms. It's easy to get started using Swift, with a > concise-yet-expressive syntax and modern features you'll love. Swift code > is safe by design and produces software that runs lightning fast." > > "Designed for safety" > > "Swift eliminates entire classes of unsafe code" > > "Swift makes software safer and faster, while also making programming more > fun." > > "Another safety feature is that by default Swift objects can never be nil. > This makes code much cleaner and safer" > > "Swift syntax ensures you to safely deal with it using the ? syntax to > indicate to the compiler you understand the behavior and will handle it > safely." > > "Swift is perfect for use in server apps that need runtime safety" > > If researchers can find these holes, what is the reason Apple can't? Read above.