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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: sci.logic
Subject: Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise
Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:56:58 -0500
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On 7/6/2024 8:32 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 7/6/24 9:06 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 7/6/2024 6:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>> On 7/6/24 6:41 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 7/6/2024 5:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 7/6/24 6:08 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> On 7/6/2024 4:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>> The problem here is you logic doesn't actually allow for the 
>>>>>>> necessaery references in it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not at all. My logic is simply smart enough to reject
>>>>>> non-truth-bearers AKA expressions that are not valid
>>>>>> propositions. It does not stupidly falsely assume that
>>>>>> every expression is a valid proposition.\
>>>>>
>>>>> Logic isn't "Smart", it follows its rules.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your rules are just inconsistent.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When-so-ever true means provable and false means not provable
>>>> the meaning of these words proves that such a system cannot
>>>> get stuck in pathological expressions.
>>>
>>> And such a definition requires the system to be keep simple or it 
>>> becomes inconsistant.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> LP := ~True(LP) has a cycle in the directed
>>>> graph of the elements of the expression related
>>>> to each other that Prolog and MTT detects.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So, what value does True(LP) return?
>>>
>>
>> True(L,x)  means x is true.
>> ~True(L,x) means x is untrue which includes false and not a proposition.
>>
>> True(L,~x) means x is false.
>> ~True(L,~x) means x is unfalse which includes true and not a proposition.
>>
>> True(L,LP) is false and True(L,~LP) is false which means LP
>> is not a proposition.
> 
> And if x is defined in L as ~True(L,x) means that True(L, x) is false, 
> then x being the negation of that result is a true statement.
> 
*That is not the way it works in my system or Prolog*
~True(L, x)  means x is either false or not a proposition
~True(L, ~x) means x is either true or not a proposition

Try reading those two lines 150 more times and maybe it will
break through your ADD. Alternatively you are simply a liar.

It is something like trivalent logic {true, false, incorrect}
~true is false or incorrect.
~false is true or incorrect.

-- 
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer