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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: sci.logic Subject: Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 20:56:58 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 63 Message-ID: <v6csla$1otr$2@dont-email.me> References: <v67685$6fr5$1@solani.org> <v69k46$3duna$1@dont-email.me> <49291bd9f18eaf11097b6a26f062f54b7f4d6fa9@i2pn2.org> <v69pca$3eq6r$1@dont-email.me> <7e4f146addad55792c0f18ab92d2092ebcc5dbfd@i2pn2.org> <v69scb$3fc2r$1@dont-email.me> <6e51f0e94c1e00fcaec8897b4374547bfa2d2be1@i2pn2.org> <v6aeup$3lj41$1@dont-email.me> <b47ba0b985bb7a89548bd47c0f86d8693241f892@i2pn2.org> <v6c0lk$3skuk$3@dont-email.me> <e474b5f0ed67e56f6da43e7c0deb62c76342933a@i2pn2.org> <v6c2td$3skuk$4@dont-email.me> <51aecdca646d067438e9cd44b11cb8bf9be933f2@i2pn2.org> <v6c69s$3u2mj$2@dont-email.me> <ffea314eb0c48ef1c7c52e41bbe5e596252363c9@i2pn2.org> <v6cajn$3uu9o$1@dont-email.me> <e25eac30415eb75101e6e8af05c3a40d6ea8dbda@i2pn2.org> <v6cf9d$3viun$3@dont-email.me> <f22abb5f17f657bd1122de3c6339beadf4fb3e8f@i2pn2.org> <v6ch6a$13k$2@dont-email.me> <4ce79acf7c53160136f77603265cc1e5a5d3e34e@i2pn2.org> <v6cpnc$1b3m$2@dont-email.me> <9e59212316a9b258e95a1de7f5cca46fee37861e@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 03:56:59 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9c29ee80738061e83f912864b4700212"; logging-data="58299"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18xB7G3X2PXIKJgobIKB6Xr" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:XYqrJg72A2r7KNt2usK9hfHjGdE= In-Reply-To: <9e59212316a9b258e95a1de7f5cca46fee37861e@i2pn2.org> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 4267 On 7/6/2024 8:32 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 7/6/24 9:06 PM, olcott wrote: >> On 7/6/2024 6:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>> On 7/6/24 6:41 PM, olcott wrote: >>>> On 7/6/2024 5:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>> On 7/6/24 6:08 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>>> On 7/6/2024 4:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>>>>> The problem here is you logic doesn't actually allow for the >>>>>>> necessaery references in it. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Not at all. My logic is simply smart enough to reject >>>>>> non-truth-bearers AKA expressions that are not valid >>>>>> propositions. It does not stupidly falsely assume that >>>>>> every expression is a valid proposition.\ >>>>> >>>>> Logic isn't "Smart", it follows its rules. >>>>> >>>>> Your rules are just inconsistent. >>>>> >>>> >>>> When-so-ever true means provable and false means not provable >>>> the meaning of these words proves that such a system cannot >>>> get stuck in pathological expressions. >>> >>> And such a definition requires the system to be keep simple or it >>> becomes inconsistant. >>> >>>> >>>> LP := ~True(LP) has a cycle in the directed >>>> graph of the elements of the expression related >>>> to each other that Prolog and MTT detects. >>>> >>> >>> So, what value does True(LP) return? >>> >> >> True(L,x) means x is true. >> ~True(L,x) means x is untrue which includes false and not a proposition. >> >> True(L,~x) means x is false. >> ~True(L,~x) means x is unfalse which includes true and not a proposition. >> >> True(L,LP) is false and True(L,~LP) is false which means LP >> is not a proposition. > > And if x is defined in L as ~True(L,x) means that True(L, x) is false, > then x being the negation of that result is a true statement. > *That is not the way it works in my system or Prolog* ~True(L, x) means x is either false or not a proposition ~True(L, ~x) means x is either true or not a proposition Try reading those two lines 150 more times and maybe it will break through your ADD. Alternatively you are simply a liar. It is something like trivalent logic {true, false, incorrect} ~true is false or incorrect. ~false is true or incorrect. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer