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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic,comp.ai.philosophy Subject: Sequence of sequence, selection and iteration matters Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 09:16:10 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 34 Message-ID: <v6e7va$c4sv$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 16:16:10 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="9c29ee80738061e83f912864b4700212"; logging-data="398239"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+Q3XRqXRZVRSKhhrEBdAy+" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:VPvXAz5RkJnIyZOmPsIBFpkZGMk= Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2389 _DDD() [00002172] 55 push ebp ; housekeeping [00002173] 8bec mov ebp,esp ; housekeeping [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD) [0000217f] 83c404 add esp,+04 [00002182] 5d pop ebp [00002183] c3 ret Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183] Sufficient knowledge of the x86 language conclusively proves that the call from DDD correctly emulated by HHH to HHH(DDD) cannot possibly return for any pure function HHH. <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted then H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> (a) HHH determines that it must abort DDD (b) HHH reports that DDD will not stop unless aborted (c) HHH aborts its simulation of DDD If HHH reported that it did not need to abort DDD before HHH aborts DDD this is like you need groceries and report that you do not need groceries before you got more groceries: a lie. -- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer