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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: hobby electronics Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 08:46:53 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 65 Message-ID: <v6ed9e$cpga$1@dont-email.me> References: <j5a88jhm7pge920n2io4jnhs101i8ntb2g@4ax.com> <v635o1$24goj$1@dont-email.me> <v63k0i$271d8$1@dont-email.me> <v63ldd$26rbm$2@dont-email.me> <v667qj$2p9gt$4@dont-email.me> <v66doo$2q0be$1@dont-email.me> <v68tfj$3abt3$1@dont-email.me> <v698an$3c5jp$2@dont-email.me> <v6bge1$3qrun$1@dont-email.me> <v6busc$3t51f$1@dont-email.me> <v6e5ut$bs5n$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2024 17:46:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f9971c8e980327526a20b7a4d42fe357"; logging-data="419338"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19B2z8lyg8rJLJoelFWiheB" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:jiLDlCKLF8551qyPRQSvKruks4I= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <v6e5ut$bs5n$1@dont-email.me> Bytes: 4372 On 7/7/2024 6:41 AM, BillGill wrote: > On 7/6/2024 12:28 PM, Don Y wrote: >> Yes -- definitely true of "pocket books". Do you have >> to take care in positioning the book to ensure it is in the >> cameras' focused field? I.e., the scanner approach automatically >> crops the image to the actual page size so you just load pages >> and wait -- to load MORE pages. > > I am using my own KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) scanner, which > I designed myself. I originally called it a Tower Scanner, but > changed the name when I realized that I had made it as simple > as possible. > > I posted a description of it on DIY Book Scanner, at: > https://diybookscanner.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=22274&hilit=tower+scanner#p22274 > > As you can see I have a mirror in the base of the scanner > that I used to verify that the page is correctly placed. It > doesn't zoom in to fit the page, it just overscans. If the USB i/f worked, you wouldn't need the mirror (?) Your approach seems more like the Reading Machine used (in "paper handling") -- though it used a moving camera-illuminator to scan the actual page (which meant the book had to remain in place for a considerable length of time): <https://life.ieee.org/wp-content/uploads/Harvey-Lauer-with-Kurzweil-Reading-Machine-1200x819.png> > I don't do much manipulation of the images before I OCR them. > I use Abby Finereader 14 which does a pretty good job of > picking out the text. I stick with 14 because it works good > and newer versions are only available as subscriptions. All OCR tools "have problems". My scanner will do OCR but then I lose the original images (so how do I sort out what the OCR *should* have been once the original is gone?). I've also had some luck with Omnipage. > Understand that I am making ebooks that I can carry around on > different devises, not PDFs that can also be viewed on different > devices, but don't necessarily have all the text correct. The PDF doesn't have to get the text correct; it can store the image of the page (and let your eyes/brain do the OCR). I can store the OCRed text "behind" the image so that you can select the text with your cursor (in a PC application). But, again, you are stuck relying on the quality of the OCR algorithm. > And I don't digitize technical books. They are a whole different > proposition, with lots of finicky illustrations. Not something > that I would like to try to digitize. As my goal is to be rid of dead trees, I have no choice in the matter. Even discarding (scanning) all of my "paperbacks" leaves me with a few hundred cubic feet of paper. > Also I don't want to destroy my paper books. I like reading > books on paper. After all that is how I grew up. Agreed. But, if you are proactively safeguarding your collection against the possibility of downsizing into a different living situation, you've already decided that they will be discarded -- even if not "destroyed".