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From: alojzy nieborak <gaska.alojzy@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Putka i jego madrosci historyczne
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2024 19:35:24 +0200
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W dniu 2024-07-07 o 16:34, ZalekBloom@hotmail.com pisze:
> On Sun, 7 Jul 2024 15:43:47 +0200, alojzy nieborak
> <gaska.alojzy@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> W dniu 2024-07-07 o 15:26, ZalekBloom@hotmail.com pisze:
>>> On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 20:52:25 +0000, cyrylmetody2014@gmail.com
>>> (Russetbulba) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Zaputany w hanbe paktu Ribbentrop Molotow Putka kreci sie i wije aby
>>>> wyplatac CCCP z odpowiedzialnosci za II Wojne, ktora wskutek glupoty
>>>> stalinowskiej kosztowala nie tylko swiat ale ich samych dziesiatki
>>>> milionow ludzkich istnien. Ile to razy nieboraku Putin w tym artykule
>>>> Polske wymienil?
>>>>
>>>> https://nationalinterest.org/feature/vladimir-putin-real-lessons-75th-anniversary-world-war-ii-162982
>>>
>>> Fainy artykul, ale latwiej sie czyta tutaj:
>>> https://futurefastforward.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Vladimir-Putin.pdf
>>>
>>> nie ulega watpliwosci ze Putin uzywajac 'a wy bijecie Murzynow'
>>> czesciowo ma racje. A to co AI wie o wspolpracy Sovietow z Niemcami:
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Zalek: can you show me links to Soviet German military cooperation
>>> before WWII
>>>
>>> ChatGPT:
>>>
>>> Searched 5 sites
>>>
>>> Soviet-German military cooperation before World War II was marked by a
>>> complex and secretive partnership that significantly influenced the
>>> military capabilities of both nations. This cooperation began after
>>> the Treaty of Rapallo in 1922, which normalized relations between the
>>> two countries. Despite their ideological differences, both nations
>>> found mutual benefit in circumventing the restrictions imposed by the
>>> Treaty of Versailles on Germany and the international isolation faced
>>> by Soviet Russia.
>>>
>>> Key aspects of this cooperation included:
>>>
>>> Industrial and Technological Collaboration: German firms and engineers
>>> helped the Soviet Union build and modernize its military-industrial
>>> base. This included the establishment of facilities for aircraft
>>> production, chemical weapons, and tank development. For instance, the
>>> Lipetsk aviation school trained both Soviet and German pilots and
>>> tested new aircraft designs, while the Kama tank school near Kazan
>>> facilitated the development and testing of tank prototypes by both
>>> nations? (MilitaryHistoryNow.com)?? (MilitaryHistoryNow.com)??
>>> (History News Network)?? (Russia Beyond)?.
>>>
>>> Military Training and Exchange: Numerous German officers, including
>>> future high-ranking generals like Heinz Guderian and Erich von
>>> Manstein, trained in the Soviet Union. Conversely, Soviet officers
>>> benefited from German military expertise. This exchange helped both
>>> nations improve their military tactics and strategies, which would
>>> later be crucial in WWII? (MilitaryHistoryNow.com)??
>>> (MilitaryHistoryNow.com)?? (History News Network)?? (Russia Beyond)?.
>>>
>>> Shared Facilities: Jointly operated military bases, such as the
>>> chemical weapons testing ground near Moscow and the armored warfare
>>> training ground near Kazan, were established. These facilities allowed
>>> both countries to conduct secret military research and development
>>> away from the prying eyes of the international community?
>>> (MilitaryHistoryNow.com)?? (MilitaryHistoryNow.com)?? (Russia
>>> Beyond)?.
>>>
>>> The cooperation, though beneficial, was not without its challenges and
>>> eventually dissolved as political dynamics changed. The rise of the
>>> Nazi regime in Germany and the ideological rift between the two
>>> nations ultimately led to the cessation of formal military cooperation
>>> by 1933. However, the groundwork laid during this period significantly
>>> influenced the military capabilities and strategies of both nations
>>> leading up to and during WWII.
>>>
>>> For more detailed information, you can check out the sources from
>>> Military History Now, History News Network, and Russia Beyond.
>>> --
>>>
>>> A najbardziej spodobalo mi sie wytlumaczenie dlaczego Rosja nie jest
>>> winna paktowi Molotov–Ribbentrop:
>>> --
>>> Nowadays, we hear lots of speculations and accusations against modern
>>> Russia in connection with the Non-Aggression Pact signed back then.
>>> Yes, Russia is the legal successor state to the USSR, and the Soviet
>>> period – with all its triumphs and tragedies – is an inalienable part
>>> of our thousand-year-long history. However, let us recall that the
>>> Soviet Union gave a legal and moral assessment of the so-called
>>> Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact. The Supreme Soviet in its resolution of 24
>>> December 1989 officially denounced the secret protocols as
>>> "an act of personal power" which in no way reflected "the will of the
>>> Soviet people who bear no responsibility for this collusion."
>>
>> cyt.
>>
>> ile osób zginęło w ostatnim konflikcie Palestyna - Izrael w roku 2023 i
>> 2024?
>>
>> Konflikt w Izraelu i Strefie Gazy jest złożony i szybko się zmienia.
>> Jeśli chcesz uzyskać aktualne informacje, skorzystaj z wyszukiwarki Google.
>>
>>
>>
>> Za to bez zająknięcia odpowiada ile osób zginęło w wojnie UA-RU.
>>
>>
> Dobre! A ilu Krzyzakow zginelo w bitwie pod Grunwaldem?
> 
> zalek


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